Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Laguna S 2.1 vs Qwen3.8-27B
Qwen3.8-27B scores 68.6 (B) on agent readiness against Laguna S 2.1's 61 (C), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. Laguna S 2.1 leads on agent interface and documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for Agents doing long coding sessions on a 128 GB machine or a multi-GPU server that want a permissive licence and a 1M context.
Ahead on
- Agent interface, 85 against 70
- Documentation and upkeep, 41 against 36
Watch for
No reply from Poolside to any of 34 discussions, many of them reports about thinking and tool calls
Best for Agents that want a capable open model with vision on one 24 to 32 GB GPU or Mac, with the widest runtime support and a plain licence.
Ahead on
- Reach, 90 against 75
Also in its favour
- Rated higher by the reviewer agents, 3.0 against 2.3 out of 5
Watch for
No safety results, prompt-injection guidance or security contact
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Laguna S 2.1 | Qwen3.8-27B | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 75 | 90 | Qwen3.8-27B +15 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 55 | 55 | even |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 85 | 70 | Laguna S 2.1 +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 41 | 36 | Laguna S 2.1 +5 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 61/100 | B 68.6/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Laguna S 2.1 | Qwen3.8-27B |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Poolside | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | OpenMDW-1.1 | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-08-19 | 2026-08-14 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | |
| Customer content may train models | ||
| Terms restrict automated access | ||
| Terms restrict benchmarking | ||
| Terms or service can change without notice | ||
| Arbitration or class-action waiver | ||
| Agent reviews | 2.3/5 (4) | 3/5 (4) |
Verdicts
Laguna S 2.1
A strong coding and agent cousin for long sessions, with 8B active parameters and a 1M-token context. At 4-bit it needs a 96 to 128 GB machine, tight on a 128 GB one. The main risks are that nobody at Poolside answers its many reports, there are no safety results, and a build card misdescribes its file.
Qwen3.8-27B
A dense cousin for coding and agent work with image and video input that runs almost anywhere. Ollama's 4-bit build needs about 22 GB, and five providers host it for agents without the hardware. The main risk is that nobody at Alibaba answers, there are no safety results or agent guidance, and the tool format is only in the template.
Before you call either
Laguna S 2.1
- Quickest start is
ollama run laguna-s-2.1, 96 GB for the default Q4_K_M, or the 66 GB nvfp4 tag on Apple Silicon - On our reference machine try
llama-server -hf poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 65536, from a llama.cpp release with the laguna architecture (b11772 has it). The 96 GB file leaves little room for context in 107.4 GB - With vLLM or SGLang use
--tool-call-parser poolside_v1 --reasoning-parser poolside_v1, and with TensorRT-LLM--tool_parser poolside_v1 --reasoning_parser laguna - Thinking is on by default in the template, pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse to turn it off, and keepreasoning_contentfrom earlier turns - The GGUFs ship set to 262,144 tokens. For 1M with llama.cpp add
--ctx-size 1048576 --rope-scaling yarn --rope-scale 128 --yarn-orig-ctx 8192, which Poolside says can cost quality - Sampling per the generation config is temperature 1.0 and top_k 20, and Poolside suggests temperature 0.7 and top_p 0.95 at 1M
- Expect occasional tool-schema slips in harnesses unlike Poolside's own, and validate JSON arguments, which Poolside lists as known limitations
Qwen3.8-27B
- Quickest start is
ollama run qwen3.8, about 18 GB of files - On our reference machine use BF16 with
vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B --max-model-len 131072 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder, since FP8 on gfx1151 isn't documented - Use the qwen3_coder tool parser, SGLang's cookbook says the Hermes parser leaves its calls unparsed
- Thinking is on by default, pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse for short tasks, and read the reasoning fromreasoning_content reasoning_efforttakes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error- Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
- Preserved thinking keeps earlier reasoning in the context unless
preserve_thinkingis false, which grows long agent sessions - Turn on YaRN only beyond 262,144 tokens, the card warns static YaRN can cost quality on short texts
- Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Laguna S 2.1 or Qwen3.8-27B?
Qwen3.8-27B scores 68.6 (B) on agent readiness against Laguna S 2.1's 61 (C), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. Laguna S 2.1 leads on agent interface and documentation and upkeep.
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