Qwen3-4B-Instruct-2507 vs Qwen3.8-27B

Qwen3-4B-Instruct-2507

A small, fast cousin for instruction following, short tool-calling jobs and long documents on modest hardware, with no thinking step. It runs in about 3 GB at 4 bits on every common runtime, and two providers host it. The main risk is neglect, with no file changes in over a year, no answers from Alibaba and no safety results.

Qwen3.8-27B

A dense cousin for coding and agent work with image and video input that runs almost anywhere. Ollama's 4-bit build needs about 22 GB, and five providers host it for agents without the hardware. The main risk is that nobody at Alibaba answers, there are no safety results or agent guidance, and the tool format is only in the template.

Qwen3-4B-Instruct-2507

1. Quickest start is ollama run qwen3:4b-instruct, 2.5 GB. Plain qwen3:4b is the Thinking-2507 edition, not this one
2. On our reference machine use BF16 with vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3-4B-Instruct-2507 --max-model-len 262144 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser hermes
3. Use the hermes parser in vLLM or qwen25 in SGLang, the template emits JSON inside tool_call tags
4. Don't pass enable_thinking, this edition never thinks and the card says the flag isn't needed
5. Sampling per the card is temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8, top_k 20 and min_p 0, with presence_penalty up to 2 against repetition
6. Drop the context to 32,768 tokens if memory runs out, as the card suggests
7. Validate JSON yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented

Qwen3.8-27B

1. Quickest start is ollama run qwen3.8, about 18 GB of files
2. On our reference machine use BF16 with vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B --max-model-len 131072 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder, since FP8 on gfx1151 isn't documented
3. Use the qwen3_coder tool parser, SGLang's cookbook says the Hermes parser leaves its calls unparsed
4. Thinking is on by default, pass chat_template_kwargs with enable_thinking false for short tasks, and read the reasoning from reasoning_content
5. reasoning_effort takes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error
6. Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
7. Preserved thinking keeps earlier reasoning in the context unless preserve_thinking is false, which grows long agent sessions
8. Turn on YaRN only beyond 262,144 tokens, the card warns static YaRN can cost quality on short texts
9. Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented