Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
LongCat-2.5 vs Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk and agent interface. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents · All 6359 open weights comparisons
Which one, for what
Best for Operators with NPU clusters, and anyone tracking what the open flagships can do
Ahead on
- Risk, 60 against 50
- Agent interface, 75 against 60
Watch for
3,562 GB in BF16 and 1,336 GB at 4 bits
Best for Hobbyist and research agents that want a Qwen3.8-27B tuned for shorter reasoning, for local coding loops on a 24 GB GPU.
Ahead on
- Reach, 85 against 35
- Documentation and upkeep, 51 against 46
Watch for
Published from a personal account, with no organisation, security contact or safety evaluation
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Reach Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 +50
LongCat-2.5 35
Memory 0, the smallest build is Meituan's W4A4 repository, 1,336 GB, and 1,336 GB × 1.2 = 1,603 GB, far above 256 GB. The BF16 files are 3,562 GB. Runtimes 0, none of the six runs it in a released version: vLLM 0.33.0, SGLang 0.5.23, Transformers 5.22.2 and llama.cpp b12242 have no LongcatCausalLM or pro_v code, and the model code config.json names isn't in the repository. Builds 10, one quantised build from Meituan, the W4A4 repository (4-bit experts, 1,336 GB). Terms 15, MIT in the metadata, the LICENSE file and the card, with nothing added. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for both repositories on 10 November 2026, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps no inference provider to it. 0 + 0 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 35.
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 85
Memory 25 of 30, Jackrong's IQ4_XS GGUF is 15.4 GB, about 18.5 GB with a fifth added, which fits 24 GB. Runtimes 20, it keeps Qwen3.8-27B's architecture, which released vLLM, SGLang, Transformers and llama.cpp run, while Ollama's entry is the base's, not this model's. Builds 15, GGUFs at many precisions from 4-bit to 8-bit and BF16. Terms 15, Apache 2.0 through the chain. Download 10, nothing is gated. Hosted 0, no provider serves it.
Agent interface LongCat-2.5 +15
LongCat-2.5 75
Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository (11,823 characters), with a copy in tokenizer_config.json. Tool-calling format 25, the card documents how tools are declared (the OpenAI function format) and how calls come back (tool_calls with an id, a name and JSON arguments, answered by a tool message), in a worked example against an OpenAI-compatible server. Trained tool calling 10, the card describes reinforcement learning on long agentic tasks and shows one tool call in a turn. Structured output 0, Nothing on the card about JSON or schema-constrained output. Reasoning control 10, enable_thinking on or off per request through chat_template_kwargs, with the reasoning returned as reasoning_content, both shown on the card. Context 10, the card states no context length, but config.json gives 524,288 positions and the card's own evaluations ran at 512K and 1M sequence lengths after what it calls long-context training, so 128K or more is taken as trained. 20 + 25 + 10 + 0 + 10 + 10 = 75.
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 60
Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository. Tool-calling format 10 of 25, only the template shows the Hermes-style JSON calls, which differ from the base's format. Trained tool calling 20, several calls a turn. Structured output 0, not documented. Reasoning control 0, the switches are documented but not where the reasoning comes back. Context 10, 262,144 tokens from the base.
Risk LongCat-2.5 +10
LongCat-2.5 60
File safety 25, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files and no Python in the repository. Provenance 15, the files sit in the meituan-longcat organisation, the name of Meituan's GitHub organisation that the card links for deployment, and the card's licence names Meituan (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions under Usage Considerations: not evaluated for every use, assess accuracy, safety and fairness before sensitive use, and follow the law. Licence risk 15, MIT with no use policy, no threshold and no right to change the terms. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw on the card beyond a general contact, and Meituan's own security pages weren't looked up, so this scores as absent and is an open question. 25 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 0 = 60.
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 50
File safety 25, safetensors and GGUF only, nothing from the repository runs. Provenance 5 of 15, the files are on a personal account with no site or organisation behind it, though every file has a checksum. Safety evaluation 0, the card says none was done. Agent guidance 5, general cautions about loops and tool reliability. Licence risk 15, plain Apache 2.0. Security programme 0, no contact or policy.
Documentation and upkeep Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 +5
LongCat-2.5 46
Model card 11, Intended use, limitations (the usage considerations), the architecture and the parameter counts are on the card. Training data 5, A general description of the training stages and where the reinforcement learning tasks came from, with no sources, sizes or cut-off. Last change 20, the last commit, on 10 November 2026, updated the card, on the day of this check. Responsiveness 0, Neither of the 2 discussions that aren't pull requests (9 and 10 November 2026) has a reply from a meituan-longcat member, counted on 10 November by author flags and dates with a script, text not read. Version policy 5, LongCat-2.0 stays in its own repositories and 2.5 came out in new ones, with no dated note on the older ones that we read. File health 5, the template is in both places and agrees, but config.json's auto_map names configuration_longcat_oe and modeling_longcat_oe, which aren't in the repository, and the tokenizer config's 131,072-token length is a quarter of the config's 524,288 positions. 11 + 5 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 46.
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 51
Model card 11 of 20, missing architecture, context and a cut-off. Training data 5, a description with no cut-off. Last change 15, the files went up on 21 September 2026, 43 days ago, with no commit since. Responsiveness 10, Jackrong answered 2 of 8 discussions across the model's two repositories. Version policy 5, the first Flash release stays up without a dated note. File health 5, no LICENSE file, an experiment note in the template and open reports of looping and a grammar failure.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | LongCat-2.5 | Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 35 | 85 | Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 +50 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 60 | 50 | LongCat-2.5 +10 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 75 | 60 | LongCat-2.5 +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 46 | 51 | Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 +5 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | D 50.5/100 | C 61/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | LongCat-2.5 | Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Meituan (LongCat) | Jackrong |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | Apache-2.0 (metadata only, no LICENSE file); built on Qwen3.8-27B under Apache 2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-11-10 | 2026-09-21 |
| Terms last updated | not read yet | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 2.5/5 (4) |
How the scores have moved
LongCat-2.5
No score change since it was listed.
Verdicts
LongCat-2.5
Meituan's flagship is MIT-licensed and documented for tool calling and switchable reasoning, with strong numbers of its own on agentic coding. Almost nobody can run it: 3,562 GB of weights, a 1,336 GB 4-bit build for NPU accelerators, and no released runtime with its architecture. A model to watch until a runtime or a provider picks it up.
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2
A Qwen3.8-27B cousin tuned to think less per turn in long agent loops, with an MTP head for speculative decoding in llama.cpp. It fits 24 GB with Jackrong's 4-bit GGUF. The risks are one person's experimental release with no safety work, training traces taken from Claude and GPT, and a tool format that differs from Qwen's.
Before you call either
LongCat-2.5
- You can't run this on a workstation or a single GPU server. Plan for a provider, and none serves it yet
- If an operator serves it, call it as an OpenAI-compatible chat API with tools in the function format
- Pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingtrue or false - With thinking on, keep earlier reasoning in the history (
save_history_reasoning_contenttrue), as the card recommends - The card's results use temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95
- Its benchmark table is Meituan's own. The unmarked scores are in-house
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2
- Quickest start is
llama-server -hf Jackrong/Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja, about 17 GB, and add mmproj-F32.gguf for images - The card's tests used Q5_K_M with the bundled MTP head and
--spec-type draft-mtpin llama.cpp - The template asks for tool calls as JSON inside tool_call tags, so use a Hermes-style parser (vLLM's hermes), not Qwen3.8's qwen3_coder
- For coding the card recommends enable_thinking true, reasoning_effort xhigh and temperature 0.3, which you must pass yourself, since generation_config.json says 1.0
- reasoning_effort takes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error
- Earlier reasoning stays in the context unless preserve_thinking is false
- Cap max_tokens, since a report says it loops more than V1
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, LongCat-2.5 or Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2?
Qwopus3.8-27B-Flash-V2 scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk and agent interface.
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anchor compare longcat-2-5 qwopus3-8-27b-flash-v2(the CLI) - Over MCP
compare_tools {"a": "longcat-2-5", "b": "qwopus3-8-27b-flash-v2"}at/mcp, no key