Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
LongCat-2.5 vs Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct scores 55.7 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk and documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents · All 6359 open weights comparisons
Which one, for what
Best for Operators with NPU clusters, and anyone tracking what the open flagships can do
Ahead on
- Risk, 60 against 55
- Documentation and upkeep, 46 against 31
Watch for
3,562 GB in BF16 and 1,336 GB at 4 bits
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct C
Best for Coding agents and local coding tools that want an open model on one 24 GB GPU or a 32 GB Mac, with a plain licence.
Ahead on
- Reach, 90 against 35
Watch for
No safety results, prompt-injection guidance or security contact, though it's meant to run commands
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Reach Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct +55
LongCat-2.5 35
Memory 0, the smallest build is Meituan's W4A4 repository, 1,336 GB, and 1,336 GB × 1.2 = 1,603 GB, far above 256 GB. The BF16 files are 3,562 GB. Runtimes 0, none of the six runs it in a released version: vLLM 0.33.0, SGLang 0.5.23, Transformers 5.22.2 and llama.cpp b12242 have no LongcatCausalLM or pro_v code, and the model code config.json names isn't in the repository. Builds 10, one quantised build from Meituan, the W4A4 repository (4-bit experts, 1,336 GB). Terms 15, MIT in the metadata, the LICENSE file and the card, with nothing added. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for both repositories on 10 November 2026, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps no inference provider to it. 0 + 0 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 35.
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct 90
Memory 25 of 30, LM Studio's MLX 4-bit build is 17.2 GB and Ollama's 4-bit build 19 GB, 21 to 23 GB with a fifth added, which fits 24 GB. Runtimes 25, released Transformers, vLLM, SGLang and llama.cpp run the qwen3_moe architecture, vLLM and SGLang carry a qwen3_coder parser, Ollama's released build pins a llama.cpp that has qwen3moe, and LM Studio's catalogue carries it. Builds 10 of 15, Alibaba's only quantised build is FP8. Terms 15, Apache 2.0 with nothing added. Download 10, neither repository is gated. Hosted 5, Featherless AI on Hugging Face (live on 4 November 2026) plus SiliconFlow and Amazon Bedrock on OpenRouter (per 21 October, not re-read) serve it. 25 + 25 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 5 = 90.
Documentation and upkeep LongCat-2.5 +15
LongCat-2.5 46
Model card 11, Intended use, limitations (the usage considerations), the architecture and the parameter counts are on the card. Training data 5, A general description of the training stages and where the reinforcement learning tasks came from, with no sources, sizes or cut-off. Last change 20, the last commit, on 10 November 2026, updated the card, on the day of this check. Responsiveness 0, Neither of the 2 discussions that aren't pull requests (9 and 10 November 2026) has a reply from a meituan-longcat member, counted on 10 November by author flags and dates with a script, text not read. Version policy 5, LongCat-2.0 stays in its own repositories and 2.5 came out in new ones, with no dated note on the older ones that we read. File health 5, the template is in both places and agrees, but config.json's auto_map names configuration_longcat_oe and modeling_longcat_oe, which aren't in the repository, and the tokenizer config's 131,072-token length is a quarter of the config's 524,288 positions. 11 + 5 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 46.
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct 31
Model card 11 of 20, intended use, architecture, parameters and context are there, but limitations, languages and a knowledge cut-off aren't. Training data 5, the blog describes the mix in general terms without a cut-off. Last change 5, config.json was corrected on 3 December 2025, 336 days before the 4 November 2026 check. Responsiveness 0, counted by script on 4 November, none of 26 discussions has a reply from Alibaba's Qwen staff, and the one Hub-flagged member who replied is the independent quantiser bartowski. Version policy 5, a first release. File health 5, the files now agree with the card, but reports about the parser and an attention error wait without a reply. 11 + 5 + 5 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 31.
Risk LongCat-2.5 +5
LongCat-2.5 60
File safety 25, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files and no Python in the repository. Provenance 15, the files sit in the meituan-longcat organisation, the name of Meituan's GitHub organisation that the card links for deployment, and the card's licence names Meituan (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions under Usage Considerations: not evaluated for every use, assess accuracy, safety and fairness before sensitive use, and follow the law. Licence risk 15, MIT with no use policy, no threshold and no right to change the terms. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw on the card beyond a general contact, and Meituan's own security pages weren't looked up, so this scores as absent and is an open question. 25 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 0 = 60.
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct 55
File safety 25, safetensors weights, and the shipped parser script runs neither to load the model nor to build prompts. Provenance 15, the files are in the Qwen organisation that Qwen's GitHub links to, with a checksum on every file. Safety evaluation 0, none published. Agent guidance 0, nothing on prompt injection, refusals or safeguards, though it's sold for agents that run commands. Licence risk 15, plain Apache 2.0 that hasn't changed. Security programme 0, no security.txt, disclosure policy or security contact for Qwen was found, and Alibaba's group security centre couldn't be checked, so it's scored as absent. Files unchanged on 4 November, and QwenLM/Qwen3-Coder still has no SECURITY.md. 25 + 15 + 0 + 0 + 15 + 0 = 55.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | LongCat-2.5 | Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 35 | 90 | Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct +55 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 60 | 55 | LongCat-2.5 +5 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 75 | 75 | even |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 46 | 31 | LongCat-2.5 +15 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | D 50.5/100 | C 55.7/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | LongCat-2.5 | Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Meituan (LongCat) | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-11-10 | 2025-12-03 |
| Terms last updated | not read yet | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 2.8/5 (4) |
Verdicts
LongCat-2.5
Meituan's flagship is MIT-licensed and documented for tool calling and switchable reasoning, with strong numbers of its own on agentic coding. Almost nobody can run it: 3,562 GB of weights, a 1,336 GB 4-bit build for NPU accelerators, and no released runtime with its architecture. A model to watch until a runtime or a provider picks it up.
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct
A coding model with 3.3B of 30.5B parameters active per token, for agentic coding tools, repository reading and fill-in-the-middle without a thinking step. It needs about 21 to 23 GB at 4 bits under Apache 2.0, and several providers host it. It runs commands for agents with no safety results or prompt-injection guidance, and Alibaba hasn't answered its discussions.
Before you call either
LongCat-2.5
- You can't run this on a workstation or a single GPU server. Plan for a provider, and none serves it yet
- If an operator serves it, call it as an OpenAI-compatible chat API with tools in the function format
- Pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingtrue or false - With thinking on, keep earlier reasoning in the history (
save_history_reasoning_contenttrue), as the card recommends - The card's results use temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95
- Its benchmark table is Meituan's own. The unmarked scores are in-house
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct
- Quickest start is
ollama run qwen3-coder:30b, 19 GB - On our reference machine use BF16 with
vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct --max-model-len 262144 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder, 61 GB of weights fits the GPU share - Use the qwen3_coder parser in vLLM or SGLang, not hermes, since calls come back as function and parameter blocks rather than JSON
- Pass tool-call arguments in the history as objects, the template iterates them as a mapping
- Sampling per the card is temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8, top_k 20 and repetition_penalty 1.05, with up to 65,536 output tokens
- For code completion use the fill-in-the-middle tokens
<|fim_prefix|>,<|fim_suffix|>and<|fim_middle|>from Qwen's README - Sandbox the commands and files it touches, since nothing from Alibaba covers prompt injection
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, LongCat-2.5 or Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct?
Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct scores 55.7 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk and documentation and upkeep.
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- Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct vs WeVisOne-VL-4B
- Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct vs ZAYA1-8B
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/compare/longcat-2-5-vs-qwen3-coder-30b-a3b-instruct.md· slim.min.md· JSON.json(or sendAccept: text/markdown) - Each listing in full
/api/v1/tools/longcat-2-5.json·/api/v1/tools/qwen3-coder-30b-a3b-instruct.json - From a terminal
anchor compare longcat-2-5 qwen3-coder-30b-a3b-instruct(the CLI) - Over MCP
compare_tools {"a": "longcat-2-5", "b": "qwen3-coder-30b-a3b-instruct"}at/mcp, no key