Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
LongCat-2.5 vs Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B scores 64.7 (B) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in every scored category. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for Operators with NPU clusters, and anyone tracking what the open flagships can do
No category where it leads by five points or more, and no fact that sets it apart.
Watch for
3,562 GB in BF16 and 1,336 GB at 4 bits
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B B
Best for Agents on one 24 to 32 GB GPU or Mac that want a fast tool-calling reasoning model with long context and a permissive licence
Ahead on
- Reach, 85 against 35
- Risk, 75 against 60
- Agent interface, 90 against 75
- Documentation and upkeep, 75 against 46
Watch for
No safety evaluation results published
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Reach Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +50
LongCat-2.5 35
Memory 0, the smallest build is Meituan's W4A4 repository, 1,336 GB, and 1,336 GB × 1.2 = 1,603 GB, far above 256 GB. The BF16 files are 3,562 GB. Runtimes 0, none of the six runs it in a released version: vLLM 0.33.0, SGLang 0.5.23, Transformers 5.22.2 and llama.cpp b12242 have no LongcatCausalLM or pro_v code, and the model code config.json names isn't in the repository. Builds 10, one quantised build from Meituan, the W4A4 repository (4-bit experts, 1,336 GB). Terms 15, MIT in the metadata, the LICENSE file and the card, with nothing added. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for both repositories on 10 November 2026, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps no inference provider to it. 0 + 0 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 35.
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B 85
Memory earns 25, since ggml-org's 18.9 GB Q4_0 GGUF and Ollama's 19 GB nvfp4 build both need under 24 GB with the fifth added. Runtimes earn the full 25 from released vLLM, SGLang, llama.cpp, Transformers, Ollama and LM Studio. Builds earn 10, as NVIDIA's only quantised build is NVFP4. Terms earn 10, because OpenMDW-1.1 is permissive with no threshold or use policy but isn't an OSI licence. Download earns 10, with no gate or account. Hosted earns 5, since NVIDIA's own API serves it and Fireworks hosts it.
Documentation and upkeep Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +29
LongCat-2.5 46
Model card 11, Intended use, limitations (the usage considerations), the architecture and the parameter counts are on the card. Training data 5, A general description of the training stages and where the reinforcement learning tasks came from, with no sources, sizes or cut-off. Last change 20, the last commit, on 10 November 2026, updated the card, on the day of this check. Responsiveness 0, Neither of the 2 discussions that aren't pull requests (9 and 10 November 2026) has a reply from a meituan-longcat member, counted on 10 November by author flags and dates with a script, text not read. Version policy 5, LongCat-2.0 stays in its own repositories and 2.5 came out in new ones, with no dated note on the older ones that we read. File health 5, the template is in both places and agrees, but config.json's auto_map names configuration_longcat_oe and modeling_longcat_oe, which aren't in the repository, and the tokenizer config's 131,072-token length is a quarter of the config's 524,288 positions. 11 + 5 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 46.
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B 75
The model card earns 20, all seven items with limitations in the linked subcard. Training data earns 20, datasets listed with sources and token counts, cut-offs and filtering, and the corpora published. Last change earns 20, counting NVIDIA's own inference code as for the other Nemotron listings. The repositories last changed on 10 September, 53 days ago, and TensorRT-LLM, which the card's serving section runs, changed its Nemotron-H model code on 14 October, 19 days ago. Responsiveness earns 5, one NVIDIA reply across 14 questions. Version policy earns 5 as a first release. File health earns 5, since reports about the card's recipes wait without a reply and the llama.cpp recipe names a quantisation the linked repository doesn't hold.
Risk Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +15
LongCat-2.5 60
File safety 25, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files and no Python in the repository. Provenance 15, the files sit in the meituan-longcat organisation, the name of Meituan's GitHub organisation that the card links for deployment, and the card's licence names Meituan (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions under Usage Considerations: not evaluated for every use, assess accuracy, safety and fairness before sensitive use, and follow the law. Licence risk 15, MIT with no use policy, no threshold and no right to change the terms. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw on the card beyond a general contact, and Meituan's own security pages weren't looked up, so this scores as absent and is an open question. 25 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 0 = 60.
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B 75
File safety earns 25, safetensors only with no Python files, and nothing from the repository runs to load it or parse its output. Provenance earns 15, files in NVIDIA's linked organisation with a hash for every file. Safety evaluation earns 0, since NVIDIA says it evaluated content safety but publishes no results. Agent guidance earns 10, a subcard that names prompt injection and the safeguards to add, without an instruction hierarchy. Licence risk keeps all 15 under OpenMDW-1.1. The security programme earns 10 for the reporting route on the card and NVIDIA's public bulletins.
Agent interface Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +15
LongCat-2.5 75
Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository (11,823 characters), with a copy in tokenizer_config.json. Tool-calling format 25, the card documents how tools are declared (the OpenAI function format) and how calls come back (tool_calls with an id, a name and JSON arguments, answered by a tool message), in a worked example against an OpenAI-compatible server. Trained tool calling 10, the card describes reinforcement learning on long agentic tasks and shows one tool call in a turn. Structured output 0, Nothing on the card about JSON or schema-constrained output. Reasoning control 10, enable_thinking on or off per request through chat_template_kwargs, with the reasoning returned as reasoning_content, both shown on the card. Context 10, the card states no context length, but config.json gives 524,288 positions and the card's own evaluations ran at 512K and 1M sequence lengths after what it calls long-context training, so 128K or more is taken as trained. 20 + 25 + 10 + 0 + 10 + 10 = 75.
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B 90
The chat template earns 20, a Jinja file in the repository. The tool-calling format earns 25, since the card names the qwen3_coder parser and shows a tool call declared and read back. Trained tool calling earns 20, with tool-use training and several calls per turn in the template. Structured output earns 5, claimed from training with no instructions. Reasoning control earns 10, thinking off per request with runtime parsers that return the reasoning apart. Context earns 10 for up to 1M tokens.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | LongCat-2.5 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 35 | 85 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +50 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 60 | 75 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +15 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 75 | 90 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 46 | 75 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +29 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | D 50.5/100 | B 64.7/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | LongCat-2.5 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Meituan (LongCat) | NVIDIA |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | OpenMDW-1.1 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-11-10 | 2026-08-11 |
| Terms last updated | not read yet | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 3/5 (4) |
How the scores have moved
LongCat-2.5
No score change since it was listed.
Verdicts
LongCat-2.5
Meituan's flagship is MIT-licensed and documented for tool calling and switchable reasoning, with strong numbers of its own on agentic coding. Almost nobody can run it: 3,562 GB of weights, a 1,336 GB 4-bit build for NPU accelerators, and no released runtime with its architecture. A model to watch until a runtime or a provider picks it up.
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B
A small agent cousin, 3B active parameters, with trained parallel tool calls, a thinking switch and up to 1M tokens of context, under a permissive licence. It runs in about 23 GB from the GGUF or Ollama builds, and NVIDIA's NVFP4 build needs NVIDIA GPUs. The main risks are no published safety results and one answered question across two repositories.
Before you call either
LongCat-2.5
- You can't run this on a workstation or a single GPU server. Plan for a provider, and none serves it yet
- If an operator serves it, call it as an OpenAI-compatible chat API with tools in the function format
- Pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingtrue or false - With thinking on, keep earlier reasoning in the history (
save_history_reasoning_contenttrue), as the card recommends - The card's results use temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95
- Its benchmark table is Meituan's own. The unmarked scores are in-house
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B
- Quickest start is
ollama run nemotron-3.5-lightning, about 19 to 25 GB of files depending on the platform - On the reference machine use
llama-server -hf ggml-org/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3.5-Lightning-30B-A3B-GGUF:Q4_0 --jinja, since the card's Q4_K_M tag doesn't exist there and NVFP4 needs NVIDIA GPUs - With vLLM serve it with
--reasoning-parser nemotron_v3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder(SGLang uses--reasoning-parser nemotron_3) - Use
temperature=1.0andtop_p=0.95, as the card says - Thinking is on by default. Pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse for short tasks - For coding agents pass
force_nonempty_content: trueinchat_template_kwargs, which vLLM's nemotron_v3 parser reads so a cut-off reasoning trace still returns content - Go past 262,144 tokens only with the card's flags (
VLLM_ALLOW_LONG_MAX_MODEL_LEN=1,--max-model-len 1048576) and enough memory
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, LongCat-2.5 or Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B?
Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B scores 64.7 (B) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in every scored category.
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