Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Ornith-1.5-397B vs Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next scores 61.8 (C) on agent readiness against Ornith-1.5-397B's 59 (C), and leads in 0 of 4 scored categories. Ornith-1.5-397B leads on risk and agent interface. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for A self-hosted frontier-scale coding agent on an 8-GPU server, where a clear licence file and an answering publisher aren't required
Ahead on
- Risk, 50 against 45
- Agent interface, 85 against 70
Watch for
Needs about 290 GB of memory at 4 bits and about 970 GB in BF16, so it doesn't fit the reference machine
Best for Teams with a multi-GPU server or a 128 GB Mac who want Qwen's newest sparse architecture for agentic coding and multimodal work, and aren't a hosted-model or coding-assistant business.
No category where it leads by five points or more, and no fact that sets it apart.
Watch for
No build fits the reference machine's 107.4 GB, and Ollama's smallest Linux build is 120 GB
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Ornith-1.5-397B | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 65 | 65 | even |
| Risk | 20%20 | 50 | 45 | Ornith-1.5-397B +5 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 85 | 70 | Ornith-1.5-397B +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 36 | 36 | even |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 59/100 | C 61.8/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Ornith-1.5-397B | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Ornith | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | Qwen Community License 1.0 (custom, not an OSI licence). Free of charge, the model name shown in products above 100M monthly users or US$20M monthly revenue, and a separate licence from Qwen before commercial use by a Model as a Service or AI Work Assistant business |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-08-23 | 2026-08-31 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Customer content may train models | ||
| Terms restrict automated access | ||
| Terms restrict benchmarking | ||
| Terms or service can change without notice | ||
| Arbitration or class-action waiver | ||
| Agent reviews | 2/5 (4) | 2/5 (4) |
Verdicts
Ornith-1.5-397B
Ornith's flagship coding and terminal-agent cousin, with XML tool calls that vLLM and SGLang parse and 262,144 tokens of context. It needs about 290 GB even at 4 bits, so a multi-GPU server, not the 128 GB reference machine. The main risk is an absent publisher, with no licence file, no safety results and files replaced without a note.
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
A large sparse cousin with 6B active parameters for agentic coding and multimodal work, previewing Qwen's next architecture. It needs a 128 GB Mac for Ollama's MLX build or about 144 GB for the 4-bit GGUF, and Qwen Cloud serves it. The main risk is a licence that needs a separate deal for hosted-model and coding or office assistant businesses.
Before you call either
Ornith-1.5-397B
- Start it with the card's vLLM command at
--tensor-parallel-size 8, orollama run ornith-1.5:397bon a machine with about 300 GB of memory - In vLLM pass
--enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_xml --reasoning-parser qwen3, and in SGLang--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder --reasoning-parser qwen3, so tool calls and reasoning come back parsed - Thinking is on by default. Send
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse for short tasks, a switch the card doesn't mention - Pin which template your runtime loads, since chat_template.jinja keeps earlier reasoning and the tokenizer_config.json template drops it
- When downloading the NVFP4 build, fetch only the files its model.safetensors.index.json names (the 25-shard set, 241.7 GB), not the eight extra shards
- Pin a revision when you download, since Ornith has replaced files in place
- Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
- On a 128 GB Mac start it with
ollama run qwen3.8-flash-next:125b-mlx(105 GB, NVFP4), on Linux the smallest Ollama build isqwen3.8-flash-next:125b-a6b-q4_K_Mat 120 GB, which won't fit a 107.4 GB GPU share - On a server,
vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FP8 --tensor-parallel-size 4 --max-model-len 262144 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder - Use the qwen3_coder tool parser and the qwen3 reasoning parser, as Qwen's GitHub README does
- Thinking is on by default, pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse to skip it, and read the reasoning fromreasoning_content, even though SGLang's cookbook says thinking can't be turned off reasoning_efforttakes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error- Send at most one system message and put it first, since the template raises an error otherwise
- Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
- vLLM keeps the 51B n-gram table in host memory on 80 GB GPUs by default, per its recipe
- Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented
- Read the Qwen Community License before serving it to others as an API or inside a coding or office assistant product
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Ornith-1.5-397B or Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next scores 61.8 (C) on agent readiness against Ornith-1.5-397B's 59 (C), and leads in 0 of 4 scored categories. Ornith-1.5-397B leads on risk and agent interface.
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