Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Ling-3.1-flash-1019 vs Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next scores 61.8 (C) on agent readiness against Ling-3.1-flash-1019's 54.8 (C), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Ling-3.1-flash-1019 leads on documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for Teams with a multi-GPU server that want an MIT-licensed flagship for long agent runs and coding
Ahead on
- Documentation and upkeep, 56 against 36
Watch for
574 GB in FP8 with no smaller build from inclusionAI, so no single machine under 690 GB of GPU memory runs it
Best for Teams with a multi-GPU server or a 128 GB Mac who want Qwen's newest sparse architecture for agentic coding and multimodal work, and aren't a hosted-model or coding-assistant business.
Ahead on
- Reach, 65 against 60
- Agent interface, 70 against 60
Watch for
No build fits the reference machine's 107.4 GB, and Ollama's smallest Linux build is 120 GB
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Documentation and upkeep Ling-3.1-flash-1019 +20
Ling-3.1-flash-1019 56
Model card 11, Intended use (complex reasoning, multi-step tasks and agentic workflows), architecture, parameters (560B total, 25B active) and context (1M claimed) are on the card. Training data 15, the training-content summary the card links names the source categories (Common Crawl and other public datasets, commercially licensed data, the Ant Spider crawler, synthetic data), the size band (over 10 trillion text tokens), data collected up to about July 2026 and the filtering, without listing datasets with sizes. Last change 20, the newest commit, on 4 November 2026, edited the card, six days before this check, and the files went up on 27 October. Responsiveness 0, Neither of the 2 discussions that aren't pull requests (both opened on 27 October 2026) has a reply from an inclusionAI member. Version policy 5, the update went into a repository of its own and Ling-3.1-flash and Ling 3.0 stay in theirs. File health 5, the card states a 1M-token context while config.json gives 262,144 with no rope scaling, and its serve commands name the earlier repository as the model path. 11 + 15 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 56.
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 36
Model card 11 of 20, intended use, architecture, parameters and context are there, but limitations, languages and a knowledge cut-off aren't. Training data 0, not described beyond a token count relative to an earlier model. Last change 15, the FP8 config fix on 31 August 2026, 63 days before 2 November. Responsiveness 0, Qwen answered none of the 40 most recent questions and reports (29 to 79, 27 August to 26 October), its only reply came in the first week. Version policy 5, a first release with nothing replaced. File health 5, the files agree with the card, but a 19 October report about the template and a pull request to fix it still wait without a reply. 11 + 0 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 36.
Agent interface Qwen3.8-Flash-Next +10
Ling-3.1-flash-1019 60
Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository (6,042 characters), which handles tools, the thinking switch and preserved reasoning. Tool-calling format 10, only the template says how tools are declared (JSON in <tools>) and how calls come back (<tool_call>name with <arg_key> and <arg_value> pairs). Trained tool calling 20, the template tells the model it may call one or more functions and loops over every entry in an assistant message's tool_calls, and the card reports gains on agentic benchmarks, AA-Briefcase and AutomationBench-AA among them. Structured output 0, the card doesn't document JSON or JSON Schema output. Reasoning control 0, the card documents turning thinking on or off per request with chat_template_kwargs enable_thinking, and names the ling3 reasoning parser, but doesn't say where the reasoning text comes back. Context 10, 262,144 tokens natively in config.json (max_position_embeddings 262144, rope_scaling null) and per SGLang's cookbook. 20 + 10 + 20 + 0 + 0 + 10 = 60.
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 70
Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository. Tool-calling format 10 of 25, the format lives only in the template and the parser name only in serving commands, and Alibaba doesn't describe how tools are declared or returned. Trained tool calling 20, the template renders several calls in one turn. Structured output 0, not documented for the weights. Reasoning control 10, thinking turns off per request, reasoning_effort budgets it and the card shows the reasoning coming back in reasoning_content. Context 10, 262,144 tokens native.
Reach Qwen3.8-Flash-Next +5
Ling-3.1-flash-1019 60
Memory 0, inclusionAI's only build is the FP8 release at 573.78 GB, × 1.2 = 688.5 GB, above 256 GB, and no runtime's library has a build. Runtimes 25, Released model code in Transformers 5.22.2 (bailing_hybrid), vLLM 0.33.0 (BailingMoeV3ForCausalLM, with ling3 tool and reasoning parsers), SGLang 0.5.23 (bailing_moe_v3.py, its bailing_hybrid config and MTP module) and llama.cpp b12242 (bailingmoe3), and Ollama, credited through its pinned llama.cpp as on the Ling-3.0-tiny listing: v0.40.16 sets LLAMA_CPP_VERSION to b12177. Builds 10, the release is FP8, the one quantised precision inclusionAI publishes for it. Terms 15, MIT in the card's metadata, with no use policy or other terms added on the card or in the repository. Download 10, the Hub API's model info gives gated false on 10 November 2026, so the files download with no account and no terms to accept. Hosted 0, the Hub API's provider mapping is empty for this repository on 10 November 2026. 0 + 25 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 60.
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next 65
Memory 5 of 30, the smallest listed 4-bit build is Ollama's 120 GB q4_K_M, 144 GB with a fifth added, which is beyond the reference machine and inside 256 GB. Ollama's Apple-only 105 GB MLX build isn't among the builds and would land in the same band. Runtimes 25, released versions of llama.cpp, Ollama, vLLM, SGLang and Transformers all run the qwen4_exp architecture. Builds 10 of 15, Alibaba's only quantised build is FP8. Terms 10 of 15, a custom licence that's free for commercial use except for model-as-a-service and coding or office assistant businesses, which need a separate licence. Download 10, neither repository is gated. Hosted 5, Hugging Face lists two live providers, Featherless AI for the BF16 repository and Nscale for the FP8 build, and Alibaba's Qwen Cloud serves Qwen3.8-Flash, which the card says is based on these weights.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Ling-3.1-flash-1019 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 60 | 65 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next +5 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 45 | 45 | even |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 60 | 70 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next +10 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 56 | 36 | Ling-3.1-flash-1019 +20 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 54.8/100 | C 61.8/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Ling-3.1-flash-1019 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | inclusionAI (Ant Group) | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | Qwen Community License 1.0 (custom, not an OSI licence). Free of charge, the model name shown in products above 100M monthly users or US$20M monthly revenue, and a separate licence from Qwen before commercial use by a Model as a Service or AI Work Assistant business |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-11-04 | 2026-08-31 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 2/5 (4) |
Verdicts
Ling-3.1-flash-1019
inclusionAI's newest flagship, a 560B hybrid mixture of experts under plain MIT that vLLM, SGLang, Transformers and llama.cpp run in released versions. It ships only as 574 GB of FP8, so it needs a multi-GPU server. The card overstates the context, documents little about tool calls, and has no safety results.
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
A large sparse cousin with 6B active parameters for agentic coding and multimodal work, previewing Qwen's next architecture. It needs a 128 GB Mac for Ollama's MLX build or about 144 GB for the 4-bit GGUF, and Qwen Cloud serves it. The main risk is a licence that needs a separate deal for hosted-model and coding or office assistant businesses.
Before you call either
Ling-3.1-flash-1019
- Serve it with SGLang 0.5.23 or later on 8 H200 or 4 GB300 GPUs, per the card, and use this repository's name as the model path, not the earlier one the card's command shows
- With vLLM pass
--trust-remote-code,--tool-call-parser ling3and--reasoning-parser ling3 - Set
chat_template_kwargsenable_thinkingfalse for direct answers. Reasoning comes back inreasoning_contentper SGLang's cookbook - Plan on 262,144 tokens of context. The 1M figure needs the YaRN override in SGLang's cookbook
- Use temperature 1.0, top_p 0.95 and top_k 20, per the card
- Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next
- On a 128 GB Mac start it with
ollama run qwen3.8-flash-next:125b-mlx(105 GB, NVFP4), on Linux the smallest Ollama build isqwen3.8-flash-next:125b-a6b-q4_K_Mat 120 GB, which won't fit a 107.4 GB GPU share - On a server,
vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FP8 --tensor-parallel-size 4 --max-model-len 262144 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder - Use the qwen3_coder tool parser and the qwen3 reasoning parser, as Qwen's GitHub README does
- Thinking is on by default, pass
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse to skip it, and read the reasoning fromreasoning_content, even though SGLang's cookbook says thinking can't be turned off reasoning_efforttakes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error- Send at most one system message and put it first, since the template raises an error otherwise
- Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
- vLLM keeps the 51B n-gram table in host memory on 80 GB GPUs by default, per its recipe
- Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented
- Read the Qwen Community License before serving it to others as an API or inside a coding or office assistant product
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Ling-3.1-flash-1019 or Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next scores 61.8 (C) on agent readiness against Ling-3.1-flash-1019's 54.8 (C), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Ling-3.1-flash-1019 leads on documentation and upkeep.
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