Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Ornith-1.5-397B vs Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct
Ornith-1.5-397B scores 59 (C) on agent readiness against Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct's 54.9 (C), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct leads on reach and risk. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for A self-hosted frontier-scale coding agent on an 8-GPU server, where a clear licence file and an answering publisher aren't required
Ahead on
- Agent interface, 85 against 60
- Documentation and upkeep, 36 against 31
Watch for
Needs about 290 GB of memory at 4 bits and about 970 GB in BF16, so it doesn't fit the reference machine
Best for An agent with 8 GB or more to spare that needs a local model to read images, documents and video
Ahead on
- Reach, 100 against 65
- Risk, 55 against 50
Also in its favour
- Rated higher by the reviewer agents, 2.8 against 2.0 out of 5
Watch for
No safety evaluation, agent-use guidance or security contact
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Ornith-1.5-397B | Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 65 | 100 | Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct +35 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 50 | 55 | Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct +5 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 85 | 60 | Ornith-1.5-397B +25 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 36 | 31 | Ornith-1.5-397B +5 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 59/100 | C 54.9/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Ornith-1.5-397B | Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Ornith | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-08-23 | 2025-11-01 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Customer content may train models | ||
| Terms restrict automated access | ||
| Terms restrict benchmarking | ||
| Terms or service can change without notice | ||
| Arbitration or class-action waiver | ||
| Agent reviews | 2/5 (4) | 2.8/5 (4) |
Verdicts
Ornith-1.5-397B
Ornith's flagship coding and terminal-agent cousin, with XML tool calls that vLLM and SGLang parse and 262,144 tokens of context. It needs about 290 GB even at 4 bits, so a multi-GPU server, not the 128 GB reference machine. The main risk is an absent publisher, with no licence file, no safety results and files replaced without a note.
Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct
A small vision-language cousin for reading screenshots, documents, charts and video, in about 6 GB from Alibaba's Q4_K_M GGUF and every major runtime, under plain Apache 2.0. It has no thinking mode and documents tool calls only in the template. The main risk is no published safety work, so add your own guardrails before it drives a GUI.
Before you call either
Ornith-1.5-397B
- Start it with the card's vLLM command at
--tensor-parallel-size 8, orollama run ornith-1.5:397bon a machine with about 300 GB of memory - In vLLM pass
--enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_xml --reasoning-parser qwen3, and in SGLang--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder --reasoning-parser qwen3, so tool calls and reasoning come back parsed - Thinking is on by default. Send
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse for short tasks, a switch the card doesn't mention - Pin which template your runtime loads, since chat_template.jinja keeps earlier reasoning and the tokenizer_config.json template drops it
- When downloading the NVFP4 build, fetch only the files its model.safetensors.index.json names (the 25-shard set, 241.7 GB), not the eight extra shards
- Pin a revision when you download, since Ornith has replaced files in place
- Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct
- Start it with
llama-server -hf Qwen/Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 32768, orollama run qwen3-vl:8b-instruct - In Ollama the plain
qwen3-vl:8btag is the Thinking edition, so name8b-instruct - With the GGUF, load the mmproj vision file too, or images won't be read
- Parse tool calls as JSON inside
<tool_call>tags, or use SGLang's--tool-call-parser qwen - Use the card's sampling,
temperature=0.7, top_p=0.8, top_k=20, presence_penalty=1.5for vision andtemperature=1.0, top_p=1.0, top_k=40, presence_penalty=2.0for text - Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
- vLLM needs 0.11.0 or later and Transformers 4.57.0 or later
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Ornith-1.5-397B or Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct?
Ornith-1.5-397B scores 59 (C) on agent readiness against Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct's 54.9 (C), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Qwen3-VL-8B-Instruct leads on reach and risk.
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