Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Granite 4.2 8B vs Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B scores 64.1 (B) on agent readiness against Granite 4.2 8B's 61 (C), and leads in 0 of 4 scored categories. Granite 4.2 8B leads on reach, agent interface and documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
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Which one, for what
Best for Agents that want a documented, signed, Apache 2.0 reasoning model with tool calling on a 16 GB machine
Ahead on
- Reach, 95 against 70
- Agent interface, 85 against 70
- Documentation and upkeep, 92 against 34
Watch for
No safety results published for it
Best for Agents with access to an 8-GPU server, or calling a hosted endpoint, that want the strongest open Qwen3.5 with vision and a plain licence.
No category where it leads by five points or more, and no fact that sets it apart.
Watch for
No build fits a 256 GB machine, and Ollama has no local build
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Documentation and upkeep Granite 4.2 8B +58
Granite 4.2 8B 92
Model card 17, Intended use (best for), limitations (ethical considerations and limitations), architecture, parameters (8B), context length (128K native) and 12 tested languages are on the card. Training data 20, IBM's disclosure file for the 8B lists the datasets used in pre-training and post-training as machine-readable metadata, and the card describes the three training stages. Last change 20, the last commit, on 20 October 2026, replaced model.safetensors.index.json (titled "granite-4.2 index file fix"), 21 days before this check. Responsiveness 20, Of the 5 discussions that aren't pull requests (13 September to 5 November 2026), 4 have a reply from an ibm-granite member. Version policy 5, Granite 4.1 8B stays in its own repository and 4.2 came out in new ones. File health 10, Config, template and card agree on the architecture, the 131,072-token context and the thinking switch. 17 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 5 + 10 = 92.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B 34
The card covers five of the seven items and misses limitations and a cut-off (14). Training data is a general description without a cut-off (5). The files last changed on 24 April 2026, 192 days before this check, past the 180-day band and within a year (5), and Qwen's GitHub repository holds only a README and licence, so no reference code of Alibaba's changed later. Alibaba answered none of the 40 most recent questions and reports, recounted on 2 November (0), and GitHub issues couldn't be counted. It's a first release at this size (5), and two template reports and a template fix still wait unanswered (5). 14 + 5 + 5 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 34.
Reach Granite 4.2 8B +25
Granite 4.2 8B 95
Memory 30, IBM's own 4-bit MLX build granite-4.2-8b-q4-mlx is 4.95 GB, and 4.95 GB × 1.2 = 5.9 GB, within 8 GB. Its Q4_0 GGUF is 5.06 GB and Ollama's library build granite4.2:8b (5.3 GB) fits 8 GB too. Runtimes 25, Released versions run the granite architecture in llama.cpp (granite, b12242), vLLM (GraniteForCausalLM in the v0.33.0 registry), SGLang (granite.py at v0.5.23), Transformers (v5.22.2) and Ollama (its own granite4.2 library entry, 8b tag). Builds 15, IBM publishes FP8, MXFP4 and NVFP4 safetensors builds, a GGUF repository with Q4_0 to Q8_0 and BF16 files, and 4-bit, 8-bit and BF16 MLX builds, so quantised builds at two precisions or more. Terms 15, Apache 2.0, an OSI-approved licence, with no use policy or other terms added on the card. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for the BF16, FP8, MXFP4, NVFP4, GGUF and MLX repositories, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps one inference provider (DeepInfra, live), short of the two the line needs. 30 + 25 + 15 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 95.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B 70
Memory scores 0, since even the smallest 4-bit build, LM Studio's MLX 4-bit at 223.9 GB, needs about 269 GB with a fifth added, and Alibaba's own GPTQ-Int4 about 283 GB. Runtimes reach the 25 cap on released llama.cpp, vLLM, SGLang and Transformers and LM Studio's catalogue, though Ollama has no local build. Alibaba's FP8 and GPTQ-Int4 builds give builds 15. Apache 2.0 with nothing added gives terms 15, the ungated repositories give download 10, and Alibaba's Model Studio plus five live providers on Hugging Face give hosted too its 5.
Agent interface Granite 4.2 8B +15
Granite 4.2 8B 85
Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository, with roles, tools, tool responses, the thinking switch and low effort. Tool-calling format 25, the card has tool-calling sections for vLLM and SGLang, declares tools with OpenAI's function schema and names the parser to use, qwen3_coder, which both runtimes ship in the released versions read. Trained tool calling 20, the template loops over every entry in an assistant turn's tool_calls, so it renders several calls in one turn, and the card names tool calling and agentic workflows as what it's best for. Structured output 0, the card doesn't document JSON or JSON Schema output or how to ask for it. Reasoning control 10, the card documents thinking on by default, non-thinking and low-effort modes per request through the template (enable_thinking and low_effort), with the reasoning returned apart from the answer. Context 10, 131,072 tokens natively per the card and config.json. 20 + 25 + 20 + 0 + 10 + 10 = 85.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B 70
The template ships in the repository (20) and renders several tool calls per turn for a model trained for tool use (20). Tool-calling format gets 10, because the card names the qwen3_coder parser but leaves the declaration and call format to the template. Thinking turns off per request and comes back in think tags split by the qwen3 parser (10), and 262,144 tokens is native (10). Structured output scores 0, as nothing documents JSON output for the model.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Granite 4.2 8B | Qwen3.5-397B-A17B | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 95 | 70 | Granite 4.2 8B +25 |
| Risk | 20%20 | 55 | 55 | even |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 85 | 70 | Granite 4.2 8B +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 92 | 34 | Granite 4.2 8B +58 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 61/100 | B 64.1/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Granite 4.2 8B | Qwen3.5-397B-A17B |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | IBM | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-10-20 | 2026-02-16 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 2.8/5 (4) |
How the scores have moved
Granite 4.2 8B
No score change since it was listed.
Verdicts
Granite 4.2 8B
IBM's mid-size reasoning cousin, with the same strengths as the 3B. It runs in every runtime we count from IBM's own builds on a 16 GB machine, is signed, plain Apache 2.0, and comes with a disclosure of its training data. No safety results are published and structured output isn't documented.
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
Alibaba's biggest open Qwen3.5, a cousin for hard coding, agent and vision work. Even at 4 bits it needs about 270 GB, so most agents will call it through Alibaba's Model Studio or one of the many providers that host it. The main risk is silence, with no safety results, no agent guidance and template reports without a reply.
Before you call either
Granite 4.2 8B
- Start it with
ollama run granite4.2:8b, orllama-server -hf ibm-granite/granite-4.2-8b-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja - With vLLM 0.32.0 or later leave out
--reasoning-parser-plugin, since the parser is built in, and use--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder - Thinking is on by default. Pass
enable_thinkingfalse to turn it off orlow_efforttrue for short reasoning - The context is 131,072 tokens. The card's 512K extension isn't documented
- Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
- IBM recommends Granite Guardian beside it to flag risky inputs and outputs
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
- The card's server command is
vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B --port 8000 --tensor-parallel-size 8 --max-model-len 262144 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder, and the FP8 build halves the memory - It doesn't fit our 128 GB reference machine at any precision, so call a hosted endpoint instead (Model Studio's Qwen3.5-Plus, or a provider serving Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B)
- On Model Studio pass
"enable_thinking": falsedirectly, while vLLM and SGLang take"chat_template_kwargs": {"enable_thinking": false} - Sampling per the card is temperature 0.6, top_p 0.95 and top_k 20 when thinking, and temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8, top_k 20 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
- For multi-token prediction in vLLM add
--speculative-config '{"method":"qwen3_next_mtp","num_speculative_tokens":2}' - Keep the context at 128K or more if you rely on thinking, and turn on YaRN only past 262,144 tokens
- Validate any JSON it returns, since structured output isn't documented
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Granite 4.2 8B or Qwen3.5-397B-A17B?
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B scores 64.1 (B) on agent readiness against Granite 4.2 8B's 61 (C), and leads in 0 of 4 scored categories. Granite 4.2 8B leads on reach, agent interface and documentation and upkeep.
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