Head to head · Open-weight models you run yourself · October 2026 research run
Ornith-1.5-122B vs ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B)
Ornith-1.5-122B and ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) score within a point of each other on agent readiness, 61 (C) and 61 (C). ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) leads on documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.
Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents · All 6359 open weights comparisons
Which one, for what
Best for Local coding and terminal agents on a 128 GB unified-memory machine or a 96 GB GPU setup, where a clear licence file and an answering publisher aren't required
Ahead on
- Risk, 50 against 45
- Agent interface, 85 against 70
Watch for
No LICENSE file though the card links one, and no notice for the Apache 2.0 Qwen3.5 and Gemma 4 work it builds on
Best for Small teams and individuals running Qwen3.8-27B for agent or reasoning work who want shorter thinking traces on one 24 GB GPU or Mac.
Ahead on
- Documentation and upkeep, 53 against 36
Watch for
PolyForm Small Business licence, free commercially only below 100 people and 1,000,000 USD (2019) revenue
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Documentation and upkeep ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) +17
Ornith-1.5-122B 36
Model card 11, it covers intended use, architecture, parameters and context but not limitations, languages or a knowledge cut-off. Training data 5, a description of the method with no data or cut-off. Last change 20, a folder upload to the MLX builds on 24 October 2026, 17 days ago. Responsiveness 0, Ornith answered none of the 5 questions and reports. Version policy 0, the MLX builds were uploaded a second time four days after the first with no note. File health 0, the card links a missing LICENSE, states hardware its own files don't fit and names a variant that doesn't exist, and the two chat templates differ. 11 + 5 + 20 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 36.
ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) 53
Model card 8 of 20, intended use, limitations and parameters are there, but architecture, context, languages and a cut-off aren't. Training data 0, not described. Last change 20, BottleCap's GGUF build of the model changed its card on 7 October 2026, 27 days ago. Responsiveness 10, BottleCap answered 4 of 8 discussions on the main repository. Version policy 5, the earlier ThinkingCap stays in its own repository with an undated pointer to this one. File health 10, the readable metadata and builds agree and no broken-file report waits.
Agent interface Ornith-1.5-122B +15
Ornith-1.5-122B 85
Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository. Tool-calling format 25, the card shows how tools go in and how calls come back and names the parser for vLLM and SGLang. Trained tool calling 20, Ornith trains it on agent tasks and the template renders several calls in one turn. Structured output 0, not documented or claimed. Reasoning control 10, Ornith's template reads enable_thinking per request and the card says the reasoning comes back in reasoning_content, though the card doesn't name the switch. Context 10, 262,144 tokens native.
ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) 70
Chat template 20, the same Jinja template as Qwen3.8-27B, in the repository. Tool-calling format 10 of 25, the card names the parsers but the format lives only in the template. Trained tool calling 20, several calls a turn, and BottleCap evaluated agent tasks. Structured output 0, not documented. Reasoning control 10, reasoning_effort budgets thinking per request and the card says where the reasoning comes back. Context 10, 262,144 tokens.
Risk Ornith-1.5-122B +5
Ornith-1.5-122B 50
File safety 25, safetensors and GGUF only and no Python in any of Ornith's repositories for this size, so the card's --trust-remote-code flag loads nothing from the repository. Provenance 15, the files come from the ornith-ai organisation Ornith's blog links to, with a SHA-256 for every weight file. Safety evaluation 0 and agent guidance 0, nothing published on either. Licence risk 10, MIT carries no policy, threshold or changeable terms, but the card's licence link is broken. Security programme 0, no security.txt, disclosure policy or security contact.
ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) 45
File safety 25, safetensors only and no code in the repository. Provenance 10 of 15, the files are in BottleCap's verified organisation, but the Hub hides the gated files' SHA-256 from the public, so checksums couldn't be confirmed. Safety evaluation 0, none published. Agent guidance 0. Licence risk 10, 5 off for the size and revenue threshold. Security programme 0, no security.txt, disclosure policy or security contact.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | Ornith-1.5-122B | ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capability | 35%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25%25 | 75 | 75 | even |
| Risk | 20%20 | 50 | 45 | Ornith-1.5-122B +5 |
| Agent interface | 10%10 | 85 | 70 | Ornith-1.5-122B +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10%10 | 36 | 53 | ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) +17 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | C 61/100 | C 61/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | Ornith-1.5-122B | ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Ornith | BottleCap AI |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports | ||
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | MIT | PolyForm-Small-Business-1.0.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-10-24 | 2026-10-06 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | 2026-01-21 |
| Agent reviews | none | 2.5/5 (4) |
Verdicts
Ornith-1.5-122B
The largest Ornith that fits a 128 GB machine, a coding and terminal-agent cousin on Qwen3.5-122B-A10B's architecture with XML tool calls and 262,144 tokens of context. Its 4-bit builds need 84 to 93 GB. The main risk is an absent publisher, with no licence file, safety results or replies, and a card that misstates the hardware.
ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B)
A Qwen3.8-27B with shorter reasoning, for agent work where thinking tokens cost time, and BottleCap's 4-bit GGUF runs in about 19 GB. The main limits are the licence, which needs a paid licence above 100 people or 1,000,000 USD revenue, a gated main repository, and no safety results or training-data description.
Before you call either
Ornith-1.5-122B
- Start it with
ollama run ornith-1.5:122b-q4_K_M, orllama-server -hf ornith-ai/Ornith-1.5-122B-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 262144 - Budget about 92 GB for the Q4_K_M GGUF with a working context, and less context if the machine has under 100 GB for the model
- In vLLM pass
--enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_xml --reasoning-parser qwen3, and in SGLang--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder --reasoning-parser qwen3, so tool calls and reasoning come back parsed - Thinking is on by default. Send
chat_template_kwargswithenable_thinkingfalse for short tasks, a switch the card doesn't mention - Pin which template your runtime loads, since chat_template.jinja keeps earlier reasoning and the tokenizer_config.json template drops it
- Use temperature 0.6, top_p 0.95, top_k 20 for coding and temperature 1.0 for general tasks, as the card recommends
- Add mmproj-Ornith-1.5-122B-BF16.gguf (0.9 GB) for image input in llama.cpp, and validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B)
- Check the licence first, an organisation with 100 or more people or 1,000,000 USD (2019) revenue needs a commercial licence from BottleCap
- For files without the gate use
llama-server -hf bottlecapai/ThinkingCap-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja, about 17.4 GB - On vLLM use
--reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_xml, and on SGLang--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder - Set
reasoning_effort(xhigh, medium or low) in chat_template_kwargs, any other value makes the template raise an error - Keep the base's sampling (temperature 1.0, top_p 0.95, top_k 20), the GGUF card says greedy decoding can loop
- The GGUFs carry an MTP head, and llama.cpp builds without MTP support for this architecture may refuse to load them with a missing blk.64 tensor
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, Ornith-1.5-122B or ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B)?
Ornith-1.5-122B and ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) score within a point of each other on agent readiness, 61 (C) and 61 (C). ThinkingCap (Qwen3.8 27B) leads on documentation and upkeep.
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