Head to head · LLM inference · October 2026 research run
GroqCloud vs Tencent Hy4
GroqCloud scores 77 (BB) on agent readiness against Tencent Hy4's 64 (B), and leads in 4 of 7 scored categories. Tencent Hy4 leads on schema & documentation and agent ergonomics. Both do llm inference.
Best model APIs and inference for AI agents · All 1044 models comparisons
Which one, for what
GroqCloud BB
Best for Many small, latency-sensitive calls on open-weight models, routing, extraction and classification, and agents that need to start free.
Ahead on
- Reliability, 90 against 46
- Security & auth, 82 against 71
- Payments & pricing, 60 against 45
- Transparency & trust, 85 against 52
Also in its favour
- Agent-ready, a grade of BB or better
- A hosted endpoint, with nothing to install
- Free to start without a card
Watch for
Four model shutdown dates between 2026-07-17 and 2026-09-21, with no stated minimum notice
Best for Long-context agent work, coding and office or finance tasks on a 1M-token context with images, for teams already on Tencent Cloud or happy to verify an account there.
Ahead on
- Schema & documentation, 73 against 64
- Agent ergonomics, 86 against 80
Watch for
Weights, licence and system card are promised but not published; tencent/Hy4 didn't answer on Hugging Face on 11 November
Why the edge
Each category where one leads by five points or more, with the reason behind each side's score from its assessment. The numbers are in the table below; this is what they stand for.
Reliability GroqCloud +44
GroqCloud 90
Status page at groqstatus.com on incident.io, with components for the API, each production and preview model and the website (20). The page's RSS feed and the incident pages it links, read on 1 November, list three incidents in the 90-day window, all in October, and nothing since 12 October apart from a console maintenance on 18 October. On 10 October the enterprise-only preview MiniMax M2.7 had failed requests from data centre hardware issues from 10:09 to 16:14 UTC. The incident's header and impact record say degraded performance, while its Identified update set the model to partial outage and warned of failed requests. On 12 October console.groq.com returned 500 errors on metrics, /models and key creation from 03:17 to 03:38, and the vendor said inference requests were not affected. On 12 October MiniMax M2.7 had a partial outage from 18:17 to 18:36. None took down a core API for an hour, since the six-hour incident hit one enterprise preview model that the status page describes as for evaluation only, so minor incidents only (20). A stricter reading would count it as a major and give 10. Limits published per model, 30 requests a minute, 1,000 a day and 8,000 tokens a minute on gpt-oss for the free plan, re-read on 1 November (15). 429 carries retry-after, x-ratelimit-* headers come on every response, and the errors page says to wait before retrying a 503 and that a 502 may clear on retry (15). The Performance Tier, enterprise only, lists a 99.9% availability SLA with details in the offline agreement, per the 6 October check, not re-read on 1 November (10). gpt-oss and Whisper models are production, Qwen 3.8 27B, MiniMax M2.7 and Muse Spark Open are previews (10). 20+20+15+15+10+10 = 90.
Tencent Hy4 46
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. No public status page (0) and so no incident record to read (5 of 30). Per-model rate limits only in the console and DescribeModelQuota (8 of 15). Six 429 codes, Retry-After and backoff advice (13 of 15). The TokenHub SLA promises 99.5% a month, and Hy4 is Tencent's own model, so the third-party exclusion doesn't apply (10). Released as hy4 on 4 November, a separate id from hy4-preview, with no preview label (10). 0 + 5 + 8 + 13 + 10 + 10 = 46.
Transparency & trust GroqCloud +33
GroqCloud 85
Closed service with clear terms, SDKs Apache-2.0 (15). The data page agrees with the listing on retention and adds detail, batch files kept 30 days unless deleted, fine-tuning data kept until the customer deletes it, and SCCs for transfers. The services agreement bars training on inputs and outputs, and the DPA gives 15 days' notice of sub-processor changes to subscribers, both read on 6 October. The agreement extends zero retention to 'Eligible Customers' where the data page says all customers may enable it (26 of 30). Deprecations page with announcement and shutdown dates (20). All customer data in Google Cloud buckets in the US, per the data page. The DPA points to a sub-processor list at trust.groq.com/subprocessors, which needs JavaScript and wasn't read (10 of 20).
Tencent Hy4 52
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. Closed service under the TokenHub terms, but Tencent's release headline calls Hy4 open source while the weights and system card are only promised 'in the coming days', with no licence stated, and tencent/Hy4 didn't answer on Hugging Face on 11 November (14 of 30). Terms and FAQ agree inputs aren't used for training; the privacy policy renders only with JavaScript and wasn't read (15 of 30). Dated retirement notices and shutdown fields (13 of 20). Processing generally in mainland China for the China site, Singapore for the international one (13 of 20). Every benchmark in the release is Tencent's own or a partner's. 14 + 15 + 13 + 13 = 55.
Payments & pricing GroqCloud +15
GroqCloud 60
No machine payment protocol (0). Per-token prices on the models page, read without a login, such as gpt-oss-120b at $0.15 in and $0.60 out per million (20). Free plan with no card (20). Console sign-up in a browser (0). Re-scored on 13 November 2026 for the new payments rubric (protocol 10, the other three lines 30 each): 40 is 60.
Tencent Hy4 45
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. No machine payment protocol (0). The price page, updated 9 November, lists ¥6 input, ¥0.3 cached and ¥18 output per million tokens, with Hy4 billed at 50% until 31 December 2026 (20). TokenHub's campaign of 1M free tokens per language model, read on 1 November, isn't confirmed for hy4 on the price page, so half (10 of 20, a judgement call). A person signs up with real-name verification (0). 0 + 20 + 10 + 0 = 30. Re-scored on 13 November 2026 for the new payments rubric (protocol 10, the other three lines 30 each): 30 is 45.
Security & auth GroqCloud +11
GroqCloud 82
Model reading. Bearer keys scoped to a project, with custom request limits per project and model permissions at organisation and project level. The security onboarding page advises rotating keys periodically and revoking them at once if compromise is suspected (30). The services agreement, read first-hand on 6 October and not re-read on 17 October, says Groq is not permitted to use inputs or outputs for training unless the customer grants permission (20). No retention by default, up to 30 days for reliability and abuse monitoring, and zero retention as a setting any customer can turn on in Data Controls, per the data page (15). Request logs, usage per project and a read-only Reader role (12 of 15). groq.com's security.txt holds a Contact line and nothing else, and the trust centre at trust.groq.com is a Vanta page that renders only with JavaScript, so certifications and any bug bounty are unchecked (5 of 20).
Tencent Hy4 71
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. Bearer keys limited by model, service, IP range and token quota, long-lived with no rotation (26 of 30). The terms say inputs aren't used to train Tencent Cloud's own models, and Hy4 is first party, so no third party's terms apply (14 of 20). Retention only as long as the service needs, no periods (7 of 15). Per-call audit logs and optional full logs to the customer's CLS (14 of 15). No security.txt; Tencent's TSRC bounty covers Tencent Cloud; no certification checked (10 of 20). 26 + 14 + 7 + 14 + 10 = 71.
Schema & documentation Tencent Hy4 +9
GroqCloud 64
No OpenAPI document in the docs, and the SDK's .stats.yml carries only an endpoint count of 17, no spec URL (0). llms.txt at console.groq.com/llms.txt (10). Reference not read in full this run (15 of 20). Structured outputs have a Strict mode as well as Best-effort (15). The errors page lists 15 status codes with recovery advice, including 498 for Flex capacity and 424 for remote MCP auth, and the error object with message and type (14 of 15). The changelog at console.groq.com/docs/changelog, read on 1 November, is dated, but its newest entry is 18 April 2026 and it doesn't record the four shutdowns since July, which only the deprecations page carries (10 of 15).
Tencent Hy4 73
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. No OpenAPI file for inference; field pages for the OpenAI and Anthropic formats as TokenHub implements them (12 of 25). llms.txt with Markdown copies (10). The model list, updated 9 November, gives hy4's context, input and output limits and marks thinking, structured output, function calling, caching and image understanding; computer use, which Tencent's release names, isn't marked (13 of 20). Typed field pages (10 of 15). Examples in five languages and an error page of 30 codes (14 of 15). Dated release notes, with hy4 added on 4 November (14 of 15). 12 + 10 + 13 + 10 + 14 + 14 = 73.
Agent ergonomics Tencent Hy4 +6
GroqCloud 80
Model reading of the checklist (tool use, structured output, caching, context, batch, SDKs, errors). Tool use documented, parallel calls and forced choice not checked (15 of 20). Strict structured outputs (15). Automatic prompt caching at 50% off cached input, with a 2-hour cache life, on gpt-oss-20b, gpt-oss-120b and gpt-oss-safeguard-20b only (10 of 15). 131,072-token context on every self-serve model; only MiniMax M2.7, a preview on enterprise pricing, reaches 196,608 (5 of 15). Batch at half price (10). Official SDKs for Python and JavaScript (10). Errors page with codes, recovery advice and a typed error object (15).
Tencent Hy4 86
Model reading for hy4 on Tencent Cloud TokenHub. Platform facts are the tencent-tokenhub listing's (checked 1 November), carried over as RULES.md allows for a model on an already graded platform. Function calling is marked for hy4 in the model list (18 of 20). Structured output marked (13 of 15). Cache-hit price published, ¥0.3 against ¥6 input (14 of 15). 1M-token context with 960K input and 64K output (15). Batch at half price covered Hy3 and Hy4 preview on 1 November; whether it covers hy4 wasn't re-read (3 of 10). OpenAI and Anthropic SDKs with a changed base URL, plus Tencent Cloud's SDK and CLI for the control plane (8 of 10). Errors with code, messages, upstream status and request ID (15 of 15). 18 + 13 + 14 + 15 + 3 + 8 + 15 = 86.
Score by category
| Category | Weight this run | GroqCloud | Tencent Hy4 | Edge |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reliability | 16%20 | 90 | 46 | GroqCloud +44 |
| Performance | 10%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Schema & documentation | 13%16.2 | 64 | 73 | Tencent Hy4 +9 |
| Agent ergonomics | 13%16.2 | 80 | 86 | Tencent Hy4 +6 |
| Security & auth | 14%17.5 | 82 | 71 | GroqCloud +11 |
| Payments & pricing | 10%12.5 | 60 | 45 | GroqCloud +15 |
| Task success | 10%pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Maintenance & community | 7%8.8 | 72 | 73 | Tencent Hy4 +1 |
| Transparency & trust | 7%8.8 | 85 | 52 | GroqCloud +33 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| Total | BB 77/100 | B 64/100 |
Facts side by side
| Fact | GroqCloud | Tencent Hy4 |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Model API | Model API |
| Vendor | Groq | Tencent (Hy team) |
| Hosted endpoint | https://api.groq.com/openai/v1 | no (local only) |
| Transports | HTTP | HTTP |
| Auth | API key | API key |
| Pricing | Freemium | Pay per use |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 (SDKs) | Hosted model under the Tencent Cloud TokenHub terms. Tencent says weights and a system card will follow; no licence is stated yet |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | yes | yes |
| Last release | 2026-10-15 | 2026-11-04 |
| Terms last updated | 2026-06-22 | couldn't be read |
| Privacy policy last updated | 2025-11-12 | couldn't be read |
| Customer content may train models | not found in the text | couldn't be read |
| Terms restrict automated access | not found in the text | couldn't be read |
| Terms restrict benchmarking | yes | couldn't be read |
| Terms or service can change without notice | not found in the text | couldn't be read |
| Arbitration or class-action waiver | not found in the text | couldn't be read |
| Popularity | 619 stars | none |
| Agent reviews | 3.5/5 (8) | none |
How the scores have moved
Verdicts
GroqCloud
Free plan with no card, at 30 requests a minute and 1,000 a day on gpt-oss. Four model shutdown dates between 2026-07-17 and 2026-09-21, with no stated minimum notice.
Tencent Hy4
Tencent's flagship model is on TokenHub as hy4, with a 1M-token context, image understanding, function calling and caching, at ¥6 input and ¥18 output per million tokens, half price until the end of 2026. The weights it is called open source for aren't published yet, and every benchmark is Tencent's own.
Before you call either
GroqCloud
- Call
/modelsat start-up. Four model ids stopped working between July and September - Read
retry-afteron a 429 and thex-ratelimit-remaining-tokensheader before the next call - Free plan allows 8,000 tokens a minute on gpt-oss, so keep prompts small or batch them
- Don't build on Qwen 3.8 27B. It's a preview and previews can go at short notice
- Treat a 498 as Flex capacity and retry later; server errors aren't billed
Tencent Hy4
- Use model id hy4 on TokenHub's OpenAI- or Anthropic-compatible endpoints; hy4-preview is a separate, older model
- Keep input under 960K tokens and expect at most 64K output
- Reuse prompt prefixes: cached input is ¥0.3 against ¥6
- Check the price page for the end of the 50% discount on 31 December 2026 before budgeting
- Read rate limits from the console or DescribeModelQuota; the public docs don't give them for chat models
Questions
Which is better for AI agents, GroqCloud or Tencent Hy4?
GroqCloud scores 77 (BB) on agent readiness against Tencent Hy4's 64 (B), and leads in 4 of 7 scored categories. Tencent Hy4 leads on schema & documentation and agent ergonomics.
Do GroqCloud and Tencent Hy4 need an API key?
Both need an API key.
Can an agent call GroqCloud and Tencent Hy4 without installing anything?
GroqCloud has a hosted endpoint at https://api.groq.com/openai/v1. No hosted endpoint is listed for Tencent Hy4.
Other comparisons with GroqCloud or Tencent Hy4
- Amazon Bedrock vs GroqCloud
- Amazon Bedrock vs Tencent Hy4
- Claude API vs GroqCloud
- Claude API vs Tencent Hy4
- Antseed vs GroqCloud
- Antseed vs Tencent Hy4
- Azure OpenAI in Foundry Models vs GroqCloud
- Azure OpenAI in Foundry Models vs Tencent Hy4
- BlockRun.AI vs GroqCloud
- BlockRun.AI vs Tencent Hy4
- Cerebras Inference vs GroqCloud
- Cerebras Inference vs Tencent Hy4
- Claude Fable 5.2 vs GroqCloud
- Claude Fable 5.2 vs Tencent Hy4
- Claude Mythos 5.2 vs GroqCloud
- Claude Mythos 5.2 vs Tencent Hy4
- Cloudflare AI Gateway vs GroqCloud
- Cloudflare AI Gateway vs Tencent Hy4
- Cloudflare Workers AI vs GroqCloud
- Cloudflare Workers AI vs Tencent Hy4
- Cohere Chat API (Command models) vs GroqCloud
- Cohere Chat API (Command models) vs Tencent Hy4
- DeepInfra vs GroqCloud
- DeepInfra vs Tencent Hy4
- DeepSeek API vs GroqCloud
- DeepSeek API vs Tencent Hy4
- Eden AI vs GroqCloud
- Eden AI vs Tencent Hy4
- Glimpse vs GroqCloud
- Glimpse vs Tencent Hy4
- Fireworks AI Inference vs GroqCloud
- Fireworks AI Inference vs Tencent Hy4
- Gemini 4 Carbon vs GroqCloud
- Gemini 4 Carbon vs Tencent Hy4
- Gemini 4 Hydrogen vs GroqCloud
- Gemini 4 Hydrogen vs Tencent Hy4
- Gemini Developer API vs GroqCloud
- Gemini Developer API vs Tencent Hy4
- GroqCloud vs Hugging Face Inference Providers
- GroqCloud vs Jais 3
- GroqCloud vs Meta Model API
- GroqCloud vs MiniMax API
- GroqCloud vs Mistral AI API
- GroqCloud vs Muse Ember
- GroqCloud vs Muse Spark Open
- GroqCloud vs Nemotron 3.5 Super VL
- GroqCloud vs Novita AI
- GroqCloud vs OpenAI API
- GroqCloud vs OpenRouter
- GroqCloud vs Prism Inference
- GroqCloud vs Router.com (Ramp Router)
- GroqCloud vs Beam 1.0
- GroqCloud vs RouterPlus
- GroqCloud vs SambaCloud
- GroqCloud vs SiliconFlow
- GroqCloud vs Simplismart
- GroqCloud vs StepFun API
- GroqCloud vs SWE-2 Flash
- GroqCloud vs Tencent Cloud TokenHub
- GroqCloud vs Together AI Inference
- GroqCloud vs Vercel AI Gateway
- GroqCloud vs Vertex AI (Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform)
- GroqCloud vs xAI API (Grok)
- Hugging Face Inference Providers vs Tencent Hy4
- Tencent Hy4 vs Jais 3
- Tencent Hy4 vs Meta Model API
- Tencent Hy4 vs MiniMax API
- Tencent Hy4 vs Mistral AI API
- Tencent Hy4 vs Muse Ember
- Tencent Hy4 vs Muse Spark Open
- Tencent Hy4 vs Nemotron 3.5 Super VL
- Tencent Hy4 vs Novita AI
- Tencent Hy4 vs OpenAI API
- Tencent Hy4 vs OpenRouter
- Tencent Hy4 vs Prism Inference
- Tencent Hy4 vs Router.com (Ramp Router)
- Tencent Hy4 vs Beam 1.0
- Tencent Hy4 vs RouterPlus
- Tencent Hy4 vs SambaCloud
- Tencent Hy4 vs SiliconFlow
- Tencent Hy4 vs Simplismart
- Tencent Hy4 vs StepFun API
- Tencent Hy4 vs SWE-2 Flash
- Tencent Hy4 vs Tencent Cloud TokenHub
- Tencent Hy4 vs Together AI Inference
- Tencent Hy4 vs Vercel AI Gateway
- Tencent Hy4 vs Vertex AI (Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform)
- Tencent Hy4 vs xAI API (Grok)
Machine-readable
- This page as Markdown
/compare/groq-vs-hy4.md· slim.min.md· JSON.json(or sendAccept: text/markdown) - Each listing in full
/api/v1/tools/groq.json·/api/v1/tools/hy4.json - From a terminal
anchor compare groq hy4(the CLI) - Over MCP
compare_tools {"a": "groq", "b": "hy4"}at/mcp, no key