# Recursive Flint vs Ripple-65B Preview

> Recursive Flint scores 61 (C) to Ripple-65B Preview's 53.3 (D) for open-weight models you run yourself. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side.

- Canonical: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/recursive-flint-vs-ripple-65b-preview
- Markdown: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/recursive-flint-vs-ripple-65b-preview.md (~8,100 tokens)
- Site index for agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms.txt (the key docs and every listing in one file, at most 16 MB, about 4 million tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms-full.txt)
- API: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/index.json
- MCP: https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (the whole catalogue as tools, no key)
- DNS: dig +short TXT <slug>.grade.anchorterminal.com (the grade as a DNS TXT record, for a sandbox with no HTTP where names still resolve; also top., best.<category>. and <a>.vs.<b>. under the zone, and the same under grade.letme.dev)
- Licence: CC BY 4.0, credit Anchor Terminal and link this page (https://www.anchorterminal.com/terms/#data)
- Updated: 2026-11-04

Recursive Flint scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ripple-65B Preview's 53.3 (D), and leads in every scored category. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.

- Recursive Flint: grade C, 61/100, rank #54 of 121 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/recursive-flint.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/recursive-flint.json
- Ripple-65B Preview: grade D, 53.3/100, rank #103 of 121 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ripple-65b-preview.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/ripple-65b-preview.json
- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md
- All 3674 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md

## Which one, for what

### Recursive Flint (C)

Good for: Agents doing repository work on a 32 to 48 GB Mac or NVIDIA box that want a sparse coder with documented tool calls and a plain licence.

Ahead on:
- Reach, 85 against 45
- Risk, 60 against 55
- Agent interface, 90 against 75
- Documentation and upkeep, 67 against 49

Watch for: No independent benchmark results yet, every published score is Recursive's

### Ripple-65B Preview (D)

Good for: Teams with Blackwell GPUs or a DGX Spark who want an Apache 2.0 coding model to try for terminal and agentic coding work, and can run the publisher's code to serve it.

Watch for: No released runtime runs the architecture, so running it means Ricursive's Python in SGLang 0.5.19 or Transformers' remote code


## Why the edge

### Reach: Recursive Flint +40

- Recursive Flint (85): Memory 20 of 30, Recursive's MLX INT4 build is 22.6 GB, or 27.1 GB with a fifth added, which fits 32 GB, and every other 4-bit build lands in the same band. Runtimes 25 of 25, released llama.cpp (b11803), Ollama 0.40.8, LM Studio's catalogue, Transformers v5.21 and vLLM v0.33.0 run it, while SGLang has only a development image. Builds 15, MLX INT4 plus Q4_1 and NVFP4 GGUFs from Recursive. Terms 15, Apache 2.0 with nothing added. Download 10, nothing is gated. Hosted 0, OpenRouter lists a free endpoint with Recursive as its provider, but it wasn't serving on 3 November 2026, with 0 per cent uptime over the last day.
- Ripple-65B Preview (45): Memory 10 of 30, the smallest 4-bit build is Ricursive's NVFP4 at 57.2 GB, 68.7 GB with a fifth added, which is over 64 GB and fits our reference machine. Runtimes 0, no released runtime runs the ricursive architecture with its own code; Ricursive's SGLang plugin and Transformers' remote code don't count. Builds 10, one quantised precision (NVFP4) from Ricursive. Terms 15, Apache 2.0 with nothing added. Download 10, not gated. Hosted 0, Ricursive serves no API, Hugging Face maps no provider, Together AI's page says coming soon, and GMI Cloud's and OpenRouter's pages weren't read.

### Documentation and upkeep: Recursive Flint +18

- Recursive Flint (67): Model card 17 of 20, everything but languages. Training data 10, a general description of the mix with a June 2026 cut-off. Last change 20, released 13 days ago. Responsiveness 5, Recursive answered one of 31 discussions, on release day. Version policy 5, a first release. File health 10, the files agree with each other and the card, and no broken-file report waits.
- Ripple-65B Preview (49): Model card 14 of 20, no limitations and no knowledge cut-off. Training data 5, a general description with token counts and no cut-off. Last change 20, released today. Responsiveness 0, no discussions yet, read as none answered. Version policy 5, a first release, with the NVFP4 checkpoint replaced in place on release day under a commit note. File health 5, tokenizer_config.json carries a second, tool-less chat template and a 131,072-token limit against the card's 1M.

### Agent interface: Recursive Flint +15

- Recursive Flint (90): Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository and inside both GGUFs. Tool-calling format 25, Recursive's serving README documents how tools go in, how calls come back and the flint parser. Trained tool calling 20, several calls a turn. Structured output 15, response_format with JSON Schema is documented. Reasoning control 0, the model decides when to reason and Recursive says there's no switch or budget. Context 10, 262,144 tokens with no position scaling.
- Ripple-65B Preview (75): Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository. Tool-calling format 25, Ricursive's server README says how tools are declared and calls come back, with the ripple parser in SGLang 0.5.19. Trained tool calling 20, one or more calls a turn and agentic-coding RL. Structured output 0, not documented. Reasoning control 0, the template has no thinking switch or effort levels. Context 10, long-context training at 2M-token sequences for a stated 1M.

### Risk: Recursive Flint +5

- Recursive Flint (60): File safety 15 of 25, safetensors and GGUF only, but the card's documented BF16 route installs the wheel shipped in the repository. Provenance 15, the files are in the RecursiveSI organisation that Recursive's own engine downloads from, with a checksum on every file. Safety evaluation 0, none on the cards or in the announcement post. Agent guidance 10, the card and serving README say to enforce permissions around tool use and to strip tool tags from untrusted tool output, but there's no trained instruction hierarchy. Licence risk 15, plain Apache 2.0. Security programme 5, a reporting address on the card and a private reporting route for the engine, with no public advisories yet.
- Ripple-65B Preview (55): File safety 15, safetensors only, less 10 because the documented way to run it loads Ricursive's Python. Provenance 15, the files are in the organisation ricursive.com links to, with a checksum on every file. Safety evaluation 10, Ricursive's own FORTRESS and StrongREJECT results. Agent guidance 0, nothing on prompt injection, refusals or safeguards. Licence risk 15, Apache 2.0. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw.

## Score by category

| Category | Weight | Recursive Flint | Ripple-65B Preview | Edge |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 85 | 45 | Recursive Flint +40 |
| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 60 | 55 | Recursive Flint +5 |
| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 90 | 75 | Recursive Flint +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 67 | 49 | Recursive Flint +18 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| **Total** | | **61 · C** | **53.3 · D** | |

## Facts side by side

| Fact | Recursive Flint | Ripple-65B Preview |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Recursive | Ricursive Intelligence |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports |  |  |
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-10-21 | 2026-11-04 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | not read yet |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | 3.5/5 (4) | none |

## How the scores have moved

### Recursive Flint

- no change on 3 November 2026: product

### Ripple-65B Preview

No score change since it was listed.

## Verdicts

**Recursive Flint.** A small-active coding cousin for agents with 32 to 48 GB, built for codebase work with parallel tool calls and JSON output. Released llama.cpp, Ollama, vLLM and Transformers run it, while Recursive's free OpenRouter endpoint wasn't serving on 3 November 2026. Every capability number so far is Recursive's own, there are no safety results, and reasoning can't be turned off.

**Ripple-65B Preview.** A dense 65B coding model from a new lab, pretrained from scratch and released today under Apache 2.0, that Ricursive says leads U.S. open-weight models on Terminal-Bench 2.1. Nobody has checked that yet, and the custom architecture runs only through Ricursive's own SGLang plugin on Blackwell GPUs, with a 57 GB NVFP4 build as the smallest.

## Before you call either

### Recursive Flint

1. Quickest start is `ollama run flint` (Ollama 0.40.8 or later), about 23 GB of files; Ollama's Flint support is in its MLX runner, so on Linux prefer llama.cpp
2. With llama.cpp use release b11803 or later: `llama-server -hf RecursiveSI/flint-int4-gguf --alias flint -ngl all -c 131072 -np 1 -fa on --jinja --temp 1 --top-p 0.95 --top-k 20 --min-p 0`, and keep --jinja on
3. Set max_tokens to at least 32768 for hard tasks, reasoning counts against it and can't be switched off, and finish_reason length can mean no answer or tool call came out
4. Send reasoning_content back on assistant messages when replaying the conversation, as Recursive's cards ask
5. Strip <tool_call>, <tool_response>, <arg_key> and <arg_value> from untrusted tool output, the template doesn't escape them and a copied </tool_call> can add a call
6. Message content must be a string, flatten content-part arrays first
7. Recursive's SGLang servers listen on 0.0.0.0 with no key, publish the port on localhost only or pass --api-key
8. Check OpenRouter's endpoints list before calling recursive/flint-v1.0:free, since its only endpoint (Recursive, BF16) showed 0 per cent uptime over the last day on 3 November 2026
9. vLLM needs v0.33.0 or later and Transformers v5.21 or later; released SGLang has no Flint model

### Ripple-65B Preview

1. Run Ricursive's launcher from inference/server with `uv run --script serve.py` on two B200 GPUs; it listens on 127.0.0.1:30000 with a 16K context by default
2. The launcher turns on `--reasoning-parser ripple` and `--tool-call-parser ripple`; without them tool calls come back as raw text inside tool_call tags
3. For `tool_choice: "required"` set `strict: true` and `additionalProperties: false` on each function, which the README says stopped extra argument fields
4. Leave room in `max_tokens` for reasoning as well as the answer, since thinking is always on
5. Use chat_template.jinja, not the template inside tokenizer_config.json, which has no tool support

## Questions

### Which is better for AI agents, Recursive Flint or Ripple-65B Preview?

Recursive Flint scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ripple-65B Preview's 53.3 (D), and leads in every scored category.


## For agents

- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/recursive-flint-vs-ripple-65b-preview.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/recursive-flint-vs-ripple-65b-preview.min.md
- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "recursive-flint", "b": "ripple-65b-preview"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare recursive-flint ripple-65b-preview`
- Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/recursive-flint.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/ripple-65b-preview.json

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