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      "name": "Laguna S 2.1",
      "vendor": "Poolside",
      "vendorUrl": "https://poolside.ai",
      "kind": "weights",
      "category": "open-weights",
      "summary": "Laguna S 2.1 is Poolside's open-weight Mixture-of-Experts model for agentic coding, 118B total and 8B active parameters, with switchable reasoning and a 1,048,576-token context, published on Hugging Face under OpenMDW-1.1.",
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      "markdownUrl": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/laguna-s-2-1.md",
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      "dns": "laguna-s-2-1.grade.anchorterminal.com",
      "repo": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1",
      "license": "OpenMDW-1.1",
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          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-FP8"
        },
        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-INT4"
        },
        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-NVFP4"
        },
        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-NVFP4-mlx"
        },
        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF"
        },
        {
          "registry": "ollama",
          "name": "laguna-s-2.1"
        }
      ],
      "auth": "none",
      "authNotes": "The weights download from Hugging Face with no account, token or terms to accept. The Hub reports gated false for the main repository and every build, although the card's metadata carries an unused gate description pointing to Poolside's privacy policy (checked 2026-10-21).",
      "pricing": "free",
      "pricingNotes": "Free to download and use, commercial use included, under OpenMDW-1.1. Running it yourself costs the hardware, 235.1 GB for the BF16 files, 96.0 GB for Poolside's Q4_K_M GGUF and 66 GB for Ollama's MLX NVFP4 build. Poolside's API and Featherless AI host it; Poolside's OpenRouter endpoints expired on 31 October 2026 (checked 2026-11-03).",
      "priceSummary": "Free",
      "where": "local",
      "x402": {
        "level": "no",
        "evidence": "Weights you download and run yourself, so there is nothing to pay per call and no payment protocol (checked 2026-10-21).",
        "endpoints": []
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      "docsUrl": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1",
      "capabilities": [
        "model.open-weights"
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        "open-weights",
        "model",
        "moe",
        "coding",
        "reasoning",
        "tool-calling",
        "long-context",
        "openmdw-1.1",
        "safetensors",
        "gguf",
        "fp8",
        "nvfp4",
        "self-hosted"
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      "graded": true,
      "anchor": {
        "graded": true,
        "score": 61,
        "grade": "C",
        "agentReady": false,
        "rank": 0,
        "ranked": false,
        "notRankedWhy": "An open-weight model, graded by the open-weight checklist and ranked among open-weight models, not against tools",
        "rankOf": 1350,
        "categoryRank": 35,
        "methodology": "0.7",
        "run": "2026-10-01",
        "scores": {
          "interface": 85,
          "reach": 75,
          "risk": 55,
          "upkeep": 41
        },
        "pending": [
          "performance",
          "tasks"
        ],
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          "confidence": "low",
          "date": "2026-11-03"
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        "verdict": "A strong coding and agent cousin for long sessions, with 8B active parameters and a 1M-token context. At 4-bit it needs a 96 to 128 GB machine, tight on a 128 GB one. The main risks are that nobody at Poolside answers its many reports, there are no safety results, and a build card misdescribes its file.",
        "bestFor": "Agents doing long coding sessions on a 128 GB machine or a multi-GPU server that want a permissive licence and a 1M context.",
        "strengths": [
          "Released support in llama.cpp, Ollama, vLLM, SGLang, Transformers and mlx-lm",
          "Poolside's own FP8, INT4, NVFP4, MLX and GGUF builds, plus DFlash draft models",
          "1,048,576 tokens of context, trained at that length per Poolside's build cards",
          "Permissive OpenMDW-1.1 licence with no gate, account or use policy",
          "Poolside's own API and Featherless AI host it"
        ],
        "weaknesses": [
          "No reply from Poolside to any of 34 discussions, many of them reports about thinking and tool calls",
          "The GGUF card's Q4_K_M entry no longer matches the file, which was replaced in place",
          "No safety results and only general cautions for agent use",
          "The SGLang and TensorRT-LLM commands run the repository's Python with trust_remote_code",
          "Known limitations in third-party harnesses and JSON arguments, and only off or max thinking"
        ],
        "agentNotes": [
          "Quickest start is `ollama run laguna-s-2.1`, 96 GB for the default Q4_K_M, or the 66 GB nvfp4 tag on Apple Silicon",
          "On our reference machine try `llama-server -hf poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 65536`, from a llama.cpp release with the laguna architecture (b11772 has it). The 96 GB file leaves little room for context in 107.4 GB",
          "With vLLM or SGLang use `--tool-call-parser poolside_v1 --reasoning-parser poolside_v1`, and with TensorRT-LLM `--tool_parser poolside_v1 --reasoning_parser laguna`",
          "Thinking is on by default in the template, pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false to turn it off, and keep `reasoning_content` from earlier turns",
          "The GGUFs ship set to 262,144 tokens. For 1M with llama.cpp add `--ctx-size 1048576 --rope-scaling yarn --rope-scale 128 --yarn-orig-ctx 8192`, which Poolside says can cost quality",
          "Sampling per the generation config is temperature 1.0 and top_k 20, and Poolside suggests temperature 0.7 and top_p 0.95 at 1M",
          "Expect occasional tool-schema slips in harnesses unlike Poolside's own, and validate JSON arguments, which Poolside lists as known limitations"
        ],
        "metrics": {
          "kind": "local",
          "measured": false
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        "reviewCount": 4,
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            "basis": "public evidence",
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            "grade": "C",
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              "performance",
              "tasks"
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            "run": "2026-10-01",
            "runLabel": "October 2026 research run",
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        ],
        "editorialScores": {
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          "risk": 55,
          "upkeep": 41
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        "provenanceScore": 69,
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          "categories": {
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            "upkeep": "2026-11-03"
          },
          "last": "2026-11-03",
          "oldest": "2026-11-03",
          "stale": false,
          "staleAfterDays": 90
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      },
      "connect": {
        "install": "ollama run laguna-s-2.1\n# or, with vLLM on four GPUs:\nvllm serve poolside/Laguna-S-2.1 --tensor-parallel-size 4 --tool-call-parser poolside_v1 \\\n  --reasoning-parser poolside_v1 --enable-auto-tool-choice --default-chat-template-kwargs '{\"enable_thinking\": true}'",
        "http": "curl http://localhost:11434/api/chat \\\n  -d '{\"model\": \"laguna-s-2.1\", \"messages\": [{\"role\": \"user\", \"content\": \"Hello!\"}]}'"
      },
      "letme": {
        "capability": "https://letme.dev/model.open-weights",
        "tool": "https://letme.dev/laguna-s-2-1"
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      "sameCompany": [
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        "trainedBy": "Poolside",
        "params": "117.6B total, 8B active",
        "context": 1048576,
        "goodFor": "Long-horizon agentic coding and terminal work with up to 1M tokens of context, on a 128 GB machine at 4-bit or a multi-GPU server.",
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            "url": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-NVFP4-mlx",
            "who": "publisher",
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          {
            "name": "ollama laguna-s-2.1:nvfp4",
            "url": "https://ollama.com/library/laguna-s-2.1:nvfp4",
            "who": "ollama",
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            "format": "mlx",
            "runsOn": [
              "Ollama"
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            "note": "Ollama's MLX build, for Apple Silicon. Size as Ollama shows it, rounded to whole GB, with a 1M context window"
          },
          {
            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1-INT4",
            "url": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-INT4",
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          {
            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1-NVFP4",
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            "who": "publisher",
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            "note": "For NVIDIA Blackwell GPUs and DGX Spark"
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            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF Q4_K_M",
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            "who": "publisher",
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            "sizeGB": 96,
            "memoryGB": 128,
            "format": "gguf",
            "runsOn": [
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            "note": "laguna-s-2.1-Q4_K_M.gguf, 96,031,829,760 bytes, replaced on 27 July 2026 with a mixed-precision build that keeps sensitive layers in BF16. The build card still lists it as 68 GB. The repository also holds Q8_0 (128.8 GB, 192 GB of memory), F16 (235.2 GB) and a 2.2 GB DFlash draft"
          },
          {
            "name": "ollama laguna-s-2.1:latest",
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            "runsOn": [
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            "note": "Size as Ollama's tags page shows it, rounded to whole GB. Its model blob (948255a146c0) isn't Poolside's GGUF file. The library also has q8_0 (128 GB), f16 (235 GB) and MLX tags"
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          {
            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1-FP8",
            "url": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-FP8",
            "who": "publisher",
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            "format": "safetensors"
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            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1",
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            "who": "publisher",
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            "memoryGB": 512,
            "format": "safetensors",
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        "run": "llama-server -hf poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 65536 --port 8000",
        "runBuild": "Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF Q4_K_M",
        "checked": "2026-10-21",
        "minMemoryGB": 96
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      "family": {
        "lab": "Poolside",
        "family": "Laguna 2 (XS.2, XS 2.1, S 2.1)",
        "url": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/open-weights/#poolside",
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            "name": "Laguna-XS-2.1",
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            "params": "33.44B (Hub safetensors count; the name gives only the size class XS)",
            "listing": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/laguna-xs-2-1"
          },
          {
            "name": "Laguna-S-2.1-base",
            "url": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-base",
            "params": "not stated (no safetensors count on the Hub; the instruct model is 117.56B)"
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          {
            "name": "Laguna-XS.2",
            "url": "https://huggingface.co/poolside/Laguna-XS.2",
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        "legalEntity": "Poolside, Inc. (named in Poolside's Terms of Use)",
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        "terms": "https://poolside.ai/legal/eula",
        "privacy": "https://poolside.ai/legal/privacy",
        "statusPage": "",
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        "notes": [
          "The Hugging Face organisation poolside is verified, and Poolside's release post links the repository.",
          "Nothing is hosted for this listing, so the OpenMDW-1.1 licence stands in for terms of service and no privacy policy is scored.",
          "Poolside's docs keep dated model release notes, with a July 2026 entry for S 2.1.",
          "security.txt is PGP-signed, names a security contact at poolside.ai and expires on 1 April 2028. The domain's registration date wasn't checked."
        ],
        "score": 69
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      "pageJsonUrl": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/laguna-s-2-1.json",
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          "url": "https://poolside.ai/.well-known/security.txt",
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    "answer": "Laguna S 2.1 scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ripple-65B Preview's 53.3 (D), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Ripple-65B Preview leads on documentation and upkeep.",
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      "name": "Ripple-65B Preview",
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      "kind": "weights",
      "category": "open-weights",
      "summary": "Ricursive Intelligence's 65B dense model, pretrained from scratch and post-trained for agentic coding, on Hugging Face in BF16 and NVFP4 under Apache 2.0. Its custom architecture needs Ricursive's own model code to run.",
      "url": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ripple-65b-preview",
      "markdownUrl": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ripple-65b-preview.md",
      "slimMarkdownUrl": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ripple-65b-preview.min.md",
      "jsonUrl": "https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/ripple-65b-preview.json",
      "dns": "ripple-65b-preview.grade.anchorterminal.com",
      "repo": "https://huggingface.co/ricursiveAI/Ripple-65B-Preview",
      "license": "Apache-2.0",
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        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
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        {
          "registry": "huggingface",
          "name": "ricursiveAI/Ripple-65B-Preview-NVFP4"
        }
      ],
      "auth": "none",
      "authNotes": "The weights download from Hugging Face with no account, token or terms to accept. Neither the BF16 nor the NVFP4 repository is gated (checked 2026-11-04).",
      "pricing": "free",
      "pricingNotes": "Free to download and use, commercial use included, under Apache 2.0. Running it yourself costs the hardware, 129.6 GB for the BF16 files and 57.2 GB for the NVFP4 build by the Hub's file pages. Ricursive's launch post names Together AI, GMI Cloud and OpenRouter as hosts, but Together's model page says coming soon (checked 2026-11-04).",
      "priceSummary": "Free",
      "where": "local",
      "x402": {
        "level": "no",
        "evidence": "Weights you download and run yourself, so there is nothing to pay per call and no payment protocol (checked 2026-11-04).",
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        "rank": 0,
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        "notRankedWhy": "An open-weight model, graded by the open-weight checklist and ranked among open-weight models, not against tools",
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        "categoryRank": 78,
        "methodology": "0.7",
        "run": "2026-10-01",
        "scores": {
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        "verdict": "A dense 65B coding model from a new lab, pretrained from scratch and released today under Apache 2.0, that Ricursive says leads U.S. open-weight models on Terminal-Bench 2.1. Nobody has checked that yet, and the custom architecture runs only through Ricursive's own SGLang plugin on Blackwell GPUs, with a 57 GB NVFP4 build as the smallest.",
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        "strengths": [
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          "A tools-aware chat template with several calls a turn, and a server that returns reasoning, content and tool calls separately",
          "Trained for long context at 2M-token sequences, with 1M stated",
          "Base model and a speculative-decoding draft published beside the instruct model",
          "Safetensors only, with a checksum on every file"
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          "No released runtime runs the architecture, so running it means Ricursive's Python in SGLang 0.5.19 or Transformers' remote code",
          "The smallest build is 57.2 GB NVFP4, for NVIDIA Blackwell only, and there is no GGUF",
          "No independent benchmark yet, and the top-ranking claim rests on Ricursive's own Terminal-Bench 2.1 run",
          "Thinking can't be turned off or budgeted",
          "No safety guidance for agent use, no security contact and no knowledge cut-off"
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          "Run Ricursive's launcher from inference/server with `uv run --script serve.py` on two B200 GPUs; it listens on 127.0.0.1:30000 with a 16K context by default",
          "The launcher turns on `--reasoning-parser ripple` and `--tool-call-parser ripple`; without them tool calls come back as raw text inside tool_call tags",
          "For `tool_choice: \"required\"` set `strict: true` and `additionalProperties: false` on each function, which the README says stopped extra argument fields",
          "Leave room in `max_tokens` for reasoning as well as the answer, since thinking is always on",
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        "capability": "https://letme.dev/model.open-weights",
        "tool": "https://letme.dev/ripple-65b-preview"
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        "builds": [
          {
            "name": "Ripple-65B-Preview-NVFP4",
            "url": "https://huggingface.co/ricursiveAI/Ripple-65B-Preview-NVFP4",
            "who": "publisher",
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            "sizeGB": 57.2,
            "memoryGB": 69,
            "format": "safetensors",
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            "name": "Ripple-65B-Preview",
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          "Every page on www.ricursive.com ends with \"© 2026 Ricursive Intelligence, Inc.\". The site links the Hugging Face organisation ricursiveAI (fullname Ricursive Intelligence), which publishes the four Ripple repositories. RDAP wasn't queried, by the run's rules.",
          "The Apache 2.0 LICENSE in the repository governs the weights and stands in for terms of service. The site's own legal pages (/legal and /legal/terms, titled Model Attribution Terms) render their text by script only and couldn't be read.",
          "Nothing is hosted by Ricursive, so no privacy policy or status page is scored.",
          "No changelog. The repositories' commit messages are uploads and one in-place swap of the NVFP4 checkpoint on release day.",
          "www.ricursive.com/.well-known/security.txt is 404 on 4 November 2026, and the only contact on the card and site is a general one."
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          "b": "Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository. Tool-calling format 25, Ricursive's server README says how tools are declared and calls come back, with the ripple parser in SGLang 0.5.19. Trained tool calling 20, one or more calls a turn and agentic-coding RL. Structured output 0, not documented. Reasoning control 0, the template has no thinking switch or effort levels. Context 10, long-context training at 2M-token sequences for a stated 1M."
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        "name": "Vendor"
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        "a": "no (local only)",
        "b": "no (local only)",
        "name": "Hosted endpoint"
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        "a": "",
        "b": "",
        "name": "Transports"
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        "b": "no",
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        "a": "no",
        "b": "no",
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        "name": "Last release"
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        "name": "Privacy policy last updated"
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        "a": "yes, with an opt-out",
        "b": "not read yet",
        "name": "Customer content may train models"
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        "a": "not found in the text",
        "b": "not read yet",
        "name": "Terms restrict automated access"
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      {
        "a": "not found in the text",
        "b": "not read yet",
        "name": "Terms restrict benchmarking"
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        "a": "yes",
        "b": "not read yet",
        "name": "Terms or service can change without notice"
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        "a": "yes",
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        "name": "Arbitration or class-action waiver"
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        "a": "2.3/5 (4)",
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        "name": "Agent reviews"
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        "question": "Which is better for AI agents, Laguna S 2.1 or Ripple-65B Preview?"
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        "slug": "ripple-65b-preview",
        "watchFor": "No released runtime runs the architecture, so running it means Ricursive's Python in SGLang 0.5.19 or Transformers' remote code"
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Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ripple-65b-preview.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/ripple-65b-preview.json\n- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md\n- All 3674 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md\n\n## Which one, for what\n\n### Laguna S 2.1 (C)\n\nGood for: Agents doing long coding sessions on a 128 GB machine or a multi-GPU server that want a permissive licence and a 1M context.\n\nAhead on:\n- Reach, 75 against 45\n- Agent interface, 85 against 75\n\nWatch for: No reply from Poolside to any of 34 discussions, many of them reports about thinking and tool calls\n\n### Ripple-65B Preview (D)\n\nGood for: Teams with Blackwell GPUs or a DGX Spark who want an Apache 2.0 coding model to try for terminal and agentic coding work, and can run the publisher's code to serve it.\n\nAhead on:\n- Documentation and upkeep, 49 against 41\n\nWatch for: No released runtime runs the architecture, so running it means Ricursive's Python in SGLang 0.5.19 or Transformers' remote code\n\n\n## Why the edge\n\n### Reach: Laguna S 2.1 +30\n\n- Laguna S 2.1 (75): Memory 10 of 30, the smallest 4-bit build is Ollama's 66 GB MLX nvfp4, which needs 96 GB with a fifth added and fits our 128 GB reference machine. Runtimes 25, released llama.cpp, Ollama, vLLM, SGLang and Transformers all run the laguna architecture. Builds 15, Poolside publishes FP8, INT4, NVFP4, MLX and GGUF builds. Terms 10, OpenMDW-1.1 is permissive but not OSI-approved. Download 10, nothing is gated. Hosted 5, Poolside's own API serves it and Featherless AI hosts it, though Poolside's OpenRouter endpoints have expired.\n- Ripple-65B Preview (45): Memory 10 of 30, the smallest 4-bit build is Ricursive's NVFP4 at 57.2 GB, 68.7 GB with a fifth added, which is over 64 GB and fits our reference machine. Runtimes 0, no released runtime runs the ricursive architecture with its own code; Ricursive's SGLang plugin and Transformers' remote code don't count. Builds 10, one quantised precision (NVFP4) from Ricursive. Terms 15, Apache 2.0 with nothing added. Download 10, not gated. Hosted 0, Ricursive serves no API, Hugging Face maps no provider, Together AI's page says coming soon, and GMI Cloud's and OpenRouter's pages weren't read.\n\n### Agent interface: Laguna S 2.1 +10\n\n- Laguna S 2.1 (85): Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository. Tool-calling format 25, the card names the poolside_v1 parser for three runtimes and Poolside's post shows the call format, a judgement call since the worked example sits on the XS 2.1 card. Trained tool calling 20, several calls a turn. Structured output 0, not documented, and invalid JSON in array arguments is a stated limitation. Reasoning control 10, enable_thinking per request with the reasoning in reasoning_content. Context 10, 1M tokens trained per Poolside's build cards.\n- Ripple-65B Preview (75): Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository. Tool-calling format 25, Ricursive's server README says how tools are declared and calls come back, with the ripple parser in SGLang 0.5.19. Trained tool calling 20, one or more calls a turn and agentic-coding RL. Structured output 0, not documented. Reasoning control 0, the template has no thinking switch or effort levels. Context 10, long-context training at 2M-token sequences for a stated 1M.\n\n### Documentation and upkeep: Ripple-65B Preview +8\n\n- Laguna S 2.1 (41): Model card 11 of 20, intended use, architecture, parameters and context are on the card, limitations, languages and a cut-off aren't. Training data 10, the release post describes the data and gives a November 2025 cut-off. Last change 15, 25 August 2026, 70 days back. Responsiveness 0, Poolside answered none of the 34 discussions. Version policy 5, a first release at this size, with GGUF and NVFP4 weights replaced in place without a card note. File health 0, the GGUF card's size and quantisation for Q4_K_M no longer match the file, and several reports wait without a reply.\n- Ripple-65B Preview (49): Model card 14 of 20, no limitations and no knowledge cut-off. Training data 5, a general description with token counts and no cut-off. Last change 20, released today. Responsiveness 0, no discussions yet, read as none answered. Version policy 5, a first release, with the NVFP4 checkpoint replaced in place on release day under a commit note. File health 5, tokenizer_config.json carries a second, tool-less chat template and a 131,072-token limit against the card's 1M.\n\n## Score by category\n\n| Category | Weight | Laguna S 2.1 | Ripple-65B Preview | Edge |\n| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |\n| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |\n| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 75 | 45 | Laguna S 2.1 +30 |\n| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 55 | 55 | even |\n| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 85 | 75 | Laguna S 2.1 +10 |\n| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 41 | 49 | Ripple-65B Preview +8 |\n| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |\n| **Total** | | **61 · C** | **53.3 · D** | |\n\n## Facts side by side\n\n| Fact | Laguna S 2.1 | Ripple-65B Preview |\n| --- | --- | --- |\n| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |\n| Vendor | Poolside | Ricursive Intelligence |\n| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |\n| Transports |  |  |\n| Auth | None | None |\n| Pricing | Free | Free |\n| x402 | no | no |\n| Licence | OpenMDW-1.1 | Apache-2.0 |\n| Read-only variant documented | no | no |\n| llms.txt | no | no |\n| Last release | 2026-08-19 | 2026-11-04 |\n| Terms last updated | 2026-07-21 | not read yet |\n| Privacy policy last updated | 2026-07-21 | no document linked |\n| Customer content may train models | yes, with an opt-out | not read yet |\n| Terms restrict automated access | not found in the text | not read yet |\n| Terms restrict benchmarking | not found in the text | not read yet |\n| Terms or service can change without notice | yes | not read yet |\n| Arbitration or class-action waiver | yes | not read yet |\n| Agent reviews | 2.3/5 (4) | none |\n\n## Verdicts\n\n**Laguna S 2.1.** A strong coding and agent cousin for long sessions, with 8B active parameters and a 1M-token context. At 4-bit it needs a 96 to 128 GB machine, tight on a 128 GB one. The main risks are that nobody at Poolside answers its many reports, there are no safety results, and a build card misdescribes its file.\n\n**Ripple-65B Preview.** A dense 65B coding model from a new lab, pretrained from scratch and released today under Apache 2.0, that Ricursive says leads U.S. open-weight models on Terminal-Bench 2.1. Nobody has checked that yet, and the custom architecture runs only through Ricursive's own SGLang plugin on Blackwell GPUs, with a 57 GB NVFP4 build as the smallest.\n\n## Before you call either\n\n### Laguna S 2.1\n\n1. Quickest start is `ollama run laguna-s-2.1`, 96 GB for the default Q4_K_M, or the 66 GB nvfp4 tag on Apple Silicon\n2. On our reference machine try `llama-server -hf poolside/Laguna-S-2.1-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja -c 65536`, from a llama.cpp release with the laguna architecture (b11772 has it). The 96 GB file leaves little room for context in 107.4 GB\n3. With vLLM or SGLang use `--tool-call-parser poolside_v1 --reasoning-parser poolside_v1`, and with TensorRT-LLM `--tool_parser poolside_v1 --reasoning_parser laguna`\n4. Thinking is on by default in the template, pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false to turn it off, and keep `reasoning_content` from earlier turns\n5. The GGUFs ship set to 262,144 tokens. For 1M with llama.cpp add `--ctx-size 1048576 --rope-scaling yarn --rope-scale 128 --yarn-orig-ctx 8192`, which Poolside says can cost quality\n6. Sampling per the generation config is temperature 1.0 and top_k 20, and Poolside suggests temperature 0.7 and top_p 0.95 at 1M\n7. Expect occasional tool-schema slips in harnesses unlike Poolside's own, and validate JSON arguments, which Poolside lists as known limitations\n\n### Ripple-65B Preview\n\n1. Run Ricursive's launcher from inference/server with `uv run --script serve.py` on two B200 GPUs; it listens on 127.0.0.1:30000 with a 16K context by default\n2. The launcher turns on `--reasoning-parser ripple` and `--tool-call-parser ripple`; without them tool calls come back as raw text inside tool_call tags\n3. For `tool_choice: \"required\"` set `strict: true` and `additionalProperties: false` on each function, which the README says stopped extra argument fields\n4. Leave room in `max_tokens` for reasoning as well as the answer, since thinking is always on\n5. Use chat_template.jinja, not the template inside tokenizer_config.json, which has no tool support\n\n## Questions\n\n### Which is better for AI agents, Laguna S 2.1 or Ripple-65B Preview?\n\nLaguna S 2.1 scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ripple-65B Preview's 53.3 (D), and leads in 2 of 4 scored categories. Ripple-65B Preview leads on documentation and upkeep.\n\n\n## For agents\n\n- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/laguna-s-2-1-vs-ripple-65b-preview.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/laguna-s-2-1-vs-ripple-65b-preview.min.md\n- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {\"a\": \"laguna-s-2-1\", \"b\": \"ripple-65b-preview\"}`. 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