# Haven vs Talorys > Talorys scores 28.9 (F) to Haven's 22.2 (F) for assistants that remember you. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side. - Canonical: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys - Markdown: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys.md (~2,800 tokens) - Slim: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys.min.md (~630 tokens, same facts, less prose, for token-sensitive contexts) - JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys.json (this page as data, same URL with Accept: application/json) - Site index for agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms.txt (full text: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms-full.txt) - API: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/index.json - Updated: 2026-10-12 Talorys scores 28.9 (F) on agent readiness against Haven's 22.2 (F), and leads in 4 of 7 scored categories. Haven leads on agent ergonomics and security & auth. Both do assistants that remember you. - Haven: grade F, 22.2/100, rank #982 of 993. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/haven.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/haven.json - Talorys: grade F, 28.9/100, rank #976 of 993. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/talorys.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/talorys.json - Best AI personal assistants that act for one person: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/personal-assistants/index.md - All 314 assistants comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/personal-assistants/index.md ## Which one, for what ### Haven (F) Good for: A consumer assistant for one person who wants to phone, text or email it and have it remember them. Ahead on: - Agent ergonomics, 6 against 0 - Security & auth, 13 against 8 Watch for: No approval setting or list of actions that need confirmation was found on the public pages. The terms say it sends emails, SMS and calls following the user's instructions. ### Talorys (F) Good for: A single person who wants a private assistant for memory, tasks, notes and reminders on their own Cloudflare account. Ahead on: - Reliability, 41 against 35 - Payments & pricing, 60 against 30 - Maintenance & community, 83 against 35 Also in its favour: - Open source Watch for: No API key, MCP server or A2A endpoint, and the /api routes need the owner's browser session. ## Score by category | Category | Weight | Haven | Talorys | Edge | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Reliability | 16% (20 this run) | 35 | 41 | Talorys +6 | | Performance | 10%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run | | Schema & documentation | 13% (16.2 this run) | 4 | 0 | Haven +4 | | Agent ergonomics | 13% (16.2 this run) | 6 | 0 | Haven +6 | | Security & auth | 14% (17.5 this run) | 13 | 8 | Haven +5 | | Payments & pricing | 10% (12.5 this run) | 30 | 60 | Talorys +30 | | Task success | 10%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run | | Maintenance & community | 7% (8.8 this run) | 35 | 83 | Talorys +48 | | Transparency & trust | 7% (8.8 this run) | 51 | 52 | Talorys +1 | | Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | | | **Total** | | **22.2 · F** | **28.9 · F** | | ## Facts side by side | Fact | Haven | Talorys | | --- | --- | --- | | Kind | Platform | Platform | | Vendor | Hello Haven, Inc. | Roc Yu (rociiu) and contributors | | Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) | | Transports | HTTP | | | Auth | OAuth or key | OAuth or key | | Pricing | Free | Free | | x402 | no | no | | Licence | Proprietary service under Hello Haven's Terms of Service | MIT (Copyright 2026 The Talorys contributors). It runs on the owner's Cloudflare account under Cloudflare's own terms. | | Read-only variant documented | no | yes | | llms.txt | no | no | | Last release | 2026-09-17 | 2026-10-12 | | Terms last updated | 2026-07-24 | no document linked | | Privacy policy last updated | 2026-07-24 | no document linked | | Customer content may train models | not found in the text | | | Terms restrict automated access | not found in the text | | | Terms restrict benchmarking | not found in the text | | | Terms or service can change without notice | not found in the text | | | Arbitration or class-action waiver | not found in the text | | | Popularity | none | 978 npm/wk | ## Verdicts **Haven.** Haven answers by phone call, text, email and app, is free in beta with no card, and publishes a status page with dated incidents. No public page read says which actions need approval, which accounts it connects or how their tokens are kept, and it names no model provider or sub-processor. **Talorys.** Talorys is an MIT-licensed assistant its owner deploys to their own Cloudflare account, with no telemetry, a documented threat model and code-enforced confirmation for destructive tools. It is two days old at version 0.1.5, has no mail, calendar or payment connections, and no interface for an outside agent. ## Before you call either ### Haven 1. Haven has no documented API or MCP server. An outside agent can reach it only through the owner's channels (call, SMS, email, app). 2. Do not assume an approval step before Haven sends mail, texts or calls. None is documented on the public pages. 3. Email Haven sends to other people names Hello Haven as sender and says it was sent on the user's behalf, per the terms. 4. Chat messages, history, profile context and uploaded files go to third-party AI model providers that the vendor does not name. 5. Check status.hellohaven.ai before relying on phone or voice. All four published incidents affected those channels. ### Talorys 1. Run `npx create-talorys@latest` with Node.js 22 or later and a Cloudflare login or an API token with Workers, Pages and Workers AI permissions. 2. Don't script the /api routes. They need the owner's session cookie and CSRF header and aren't documented for other callers. 3. Update with `npx create-talorys@latest update`. Only the latest version gets security fixes. ## Questions ### Which is better for AI agents, Haven or Talorys? Talorys scores 28.9 (F) on agent readiness against Haven's 22.2 (F), and leads in 4 of 7 scored categories. Haven leads on agent ergonomics and security & auth. ### Are Haven and Talorys open source? No open-source release is listed for Haven. Talorys is open source (MIT (Copyright 2026 The Talorys contributors). It runs on the owner's Cloudflare account under Cloudflare's own terms.). ## For agents - This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-talorys.min.md - Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "haven", "b": "talorys"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare haven talorys` - Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/haven.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/talorys.json ## Other comparisons with Haven or Talorys - [AstrBot vs Haven](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/astrbot-vs-haven.md) - [CowAgent vs Haven](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/cowagent-vs-haven.md) - [GAIA vs Haven](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/gaia-vs-haven.md) - [Gemini Spark vs Haven](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/gemini-spark-vs-haven.md) - [Grok Bot vs Haven](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/grok-bot-vs-haven.md) - [Haven vs Hermes Agent](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-hermes-agent.md) - [Haven vs Instinct](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-instinct.md) - [Haven vs IronClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-ironclaw.md) - [Haven vs Leon](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-leon.md) - [Haven vs Lindy](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-lindy.md) - [Haven vs nanobot](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-nanobot.md) - [Haven vs NanoClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-nanoclaw.md) - [Haven vs Dots](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-openai-dots.md) - [Haven vs OpenClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-openclaw.md) - [Haven vs PicoClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-picoclaw.md) - [Haven vs Poke](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-poke.md) - [Haven vs QwenPaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-qwenpaw.md) - [Haven vs ZeroClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-zeroclaw.md) - [Haven vs Zo Computer](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-zo-computer.md) - [Haven vs Natura tinyNature](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-natura.md) - [Haven vs Pally](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-pally.md) - [Haven vs Tomo](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-tomo.md) - [Haven vs Wajo (Fo)](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/haven-vs-wajo.md) - [CowAgent vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/cowagent-vs-talorys.md) - [GAIA vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/gaia-vs-talorys.md) - [Gemini Spark vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/gemini-spark-vs-talorys.md) - [Grok Bot vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/grok-bot-vs-talorys.md) - [Hermes Agent vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/hermes-agent-vs-talorys.md) - [Instinct vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/instinct-vs-talorys.md) - [IronClaw vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/ironclaw-vs-talorys.md) - [Leon vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/leon-vs-talorys.md) - [Lindy vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/lindy-vs-talorys.md) - [nanobot vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/nanobot-vs-talorys.md) - [NanoClaw vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/nanoclaw-vs-talorys.md) - [Natura tinyNature vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/natura-vs-talorys.md) - [Dots vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/openai-dots-vs-talorys.md) - [OpenClaw vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/openclaw-vs-talorys.md) - [Pally vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/pally-vs-talorys.md) - [PicoClaw vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/picoclaw-vs-talorys.md) - [Poke vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/poke-vs-talorys.md) - [QwenPaw vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/qwenpaw-vs-talorys.md) - [Talorys vs Tomo](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/talorys-vs-tomo.md) - [Talorys vs Wajo (Fo)](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/talorys-vs-wajo.md) - [Talorys vs ZeroClaw](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/talorys-vs-zeroclaw.md) - [Talorys vs Zo Computer](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/talorys-vs-zo-computer.md) - [AstrBot vs Talorys](https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/astrbot-vs-talorys.md) ## Disclosure - Talorys competes with LocalGhost, which Anchor Terminal's founder builds. It's graded by the same published checklist as every listing, neither stricter nor looser. Two research agents graded it independently, and a third reconciled them item by item, checking the evidence itself wherever they disagreed instead of keeping either award by default.