# Granite 4.2 8B vs Ornith-1.5-397B > Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) to Ornith-1.5-397B's 59 (C) for open-weight models you run yourself. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side. - Canonical: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-ornith-1-5-397b - Markdown: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-ornith-1-5-397b.md (~9,300 tokens) - Site index for agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms.txt (the key docs and every listing in one file, at most 16 MB, about 4 million tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/llms-full.txt) - API: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/index.json - MCP: https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (the whole catalogue as tools, no key) - DNS: dig +short TXT .grade.anchorterminal.com (the grade as a DNS TXT record, for a sandbox with no HTTP where names still resolve; also top., best.. and .vs.. under the zone, and the same under grade.letme.dev) - Licence: CC BY 4.0, credit Anchor Terminal and link this page (https://www.anchorterminal.com/terms/#data) - Updated: 2026-11-10 Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ornith-1.5-397B's 59 (C), and leads in 3 of 4 scored categories. Both do open-weight models you run yourself. - Granite 4.2 8B: grade C, 61/100, rank #66 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/granite-4-2-8b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/granite-4-2-8b.json - Ornith-1.5-397B: grade C, 59/100, rank #100 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/ornith-1-5-397b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/ornith-1-5-397b.json - Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md - All 6359 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md ## Which one, for what ### Granite 4.2 8B (C) Good for: Agents that want a documented, signed, Apache 2.0 reasoning model with tool calling on a 16 GB machine Ahead on: - Reach, 95 against 65 - Risk, 55 against 50 - Documentation and upkeep, 92 against 36 Watch for: No safety results published for it ### Ornith-1.5-397B (C) Good for: A self-hosted frontier-scale coding agent on an 8-GPU server, where a clear licence file and an answering publisher aren't required Watch for: Needs about 290 GB of memory at 4 bits and about 970 GB in BF16, so it doesn't fit the reference machine ## Why the edge ### Documentation and upkeep: Granite 4.2 8B +56 - Granite 4.2 8B (92): Model card 17, Intended use (best for), limitations (ethical considerations and limitations), architecture, parameters (8B), context length (128K native) and 12 tested languages are on the card. Training data 20, IBM's disclosure file for the 8B lists the datasets used in pre-training and post-training as machine-readable metadata, and the card describes the three training stages. Last change 20, the last commit, on 20 October 2026, replaced model.safetensors.index.json (titled "granite-4.2 index file fix"), 21 days before this check. Responsiveness 20, Of the 5 discussions that aren't pull requests (13 September to 5 November 2026), 4 have a reply from an ibm-granite member. Version policy 5, Granite 4.1 8B stays in its own repository and 4.2 came out in new ones. File health 10, Config, template and card agree on the architecture, the 131,072-token context and the thinking switch. 17 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 5 + 10 = 92. - Ornith-1.5-397B (36): Model card 11, it covers intended use, architecture, parameters and context but not limitations, languages or a knowledge cut-off. Training data 5, a description of the method with no data or cut-off. Last change 20, Ornith uploaded new shards to the NVFP4 build on 20 October 2026. Responsiveness 0, nobody from Ornith answered either of the 2 questions, or any of the six on its GGUF and NVFP4 builds. Version policy 0, every GGUF file and the NVFP4 shards were replaced in place in August with no note. File health 0, the card links a missing LICENSE, the two chat templates differ, and the NVFP4 build carries shards its index doesn't use. ### Reach: Granite 4.2 8B +30 - Granite 4.2 8B (95): Memory 30, IBM's own 4-bit MLX build granite-4.2-8b-q4-mlx is 4.95 GB, and 4.95 GB × 1.2 = 5.9 GB, within 8 GB. Its Q4_0 GGUF is 5.06 GB and Ollama's library build granite4.2:8b (5.3 GB) fits 8 GB too. Runtimes 25, Released versions run the granite architecture in llama.cpp (granite, b12242), vLLM (GraniteForCausalLM in the v0.33.0 registry), SGLang (granite.py at v0.5.23), Transformers (v5.22.2) and Ollama (its own granite4.2 library entry, 8b tag). Builds 15, IBM publishes FP8, MXFP4 and NVFP4 safetensors builds, a GGUF repository with Q4_0 to Q8_0 and BF16 files, and 4-bit, 8-bit and BF16 MLX builds, so quantised builds at two precisions or more. Terms 15, Apache 2.0, an OSI-approved licence, with no use policy or other terms added on the card. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for the BF16, FP8, MXFP4, NVFP4, GGUF and MLX repositories, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps one inference provider (DeepInfra, live), short of the two the line needs. 30 + 25 + 15 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 95. - Ornith-1.5-397B (65): Memory 0, since the smallest 4-bit build, Ollama's at 242 GB, needs about 290 GB with the fifth added, above the 256 GB band, and Ornith's own Q4_K_M GGUF and NVFP4 builds need about the same. Runtimes 25, the most the line gives, from vLLM 0.19.1, SGLang 0.5.9, Transformers 5.8.1, llama.cpp's qwen35moe architecture and Ollama's library, while LM Studio's entry is the base's. Builds 15, Ornith publishes FP8, NVFP4 and GGUF at several precisions. Terms 15, MIT as named in the card's metadata on 21 October 2026, with nothing added, read by its terms though the repository has no licence file. Download 10, nothing is gated. Hosted 0, Ornith runs no API and no inference provider serves it. ### Risk: Granite 4.2 8B +5 - Granite 4.2 8B (55): File safety 15, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files (25). Provenance 15, the files sit in the ibm-granite organisation, which IBM's Granite docs and the GitHub README link to (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions. Licence risk 15, Apache 2.0 has no use policy, field-of-use limit, threshold or change clause, and the card's licence link resolves. Security programme 5, www.ibm.com/.well-known/security.txt names IBM PSIRT, read for the 3B listing on 4 November 2026 (5). 15 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 5 = 55. - Ornith-1.5-397B (50): File safety 25, safetensors and GGUF only and no Python in any of Ornith's repositories for this size, so the card's --trust-remote-code flag loads nothing from the repository. Provenance 15, the files come from the ornith-ai organisation Ornith's blog links to, with a SHA-256 for every weight file. Safety evaluation 0 and agent guidance 0, nothing published on either. Licence risk 10, MIT carries no policy, threshold or changeable terms, but the card's licence link is broken. Security programme 0, no security.txt, disclosure policy or security contact. ## Score by category | Category | Weight | Granite 4.2 8B | Ornith-1.5-397B | Edge | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run | | Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 95 | 65 | Granite 4.2 8B +30 | | Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 55 | 50 | Granite 4.2 8B +5 | | Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 85 | 85 | even | | Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 92 | 36 | Granite 4.2 8B +56 | | Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | | | **Total** | | **61 · C** | **59 · C** | | ## Facts side by side | Fact | Granite 4.2 8B | Ornith-1.5-397B | | --- | --- | --- | | Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model | | Vendor | IBM | Ornith | | Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) | | Transports | | | | Auth | None | None | | Pricing | Free | Free | | x402 | no | no | | Licence | Apache-2.0 | MIT | | Read-only variant documented | no | no | | llms.txt | no | no | | Last release | 2026-10-20 | 2026-08-23 | | Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked | | Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked | | Agent reviews | none | 2/5 (4) | ## Verdicts **Granite 4.2 8B.** IBM's mid-size reasoning cousin, with the same strengths as the 3B. It runs in every runtime we count from IBM's own builds on a 16 GB machine, is signed, plain Apache 2.0, and comes with a disclosure of its training data. No safety results are published and structured output isn't documented. **Ornith-1.5-397B.** Ornith's largest coding and terminal-agent model, with XML tool calls that vLLM and SGLang parse and 262,144 tokens of context. It needs about 290 GB even at 4 bits, so a multi-GPU server, not the 128 GB reference machine. The main risks are a missing licence file, no safety results, no publisher replies and files replaced without a note. ## Before you call either ### Granite 4.2 8B 1. Start it with `ollama run granite4.2:8b`, or `llama-server -hf ibm-granite/granite-4.2-8b-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja` 2. With vLLM 0.32.0 or later leave out `--reasoning-parser-plugin`, since the parser is built in, and use `--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder` 3. Thinking is on by default. Pass `enable_thinking` false to turn it off or `low_effort` true for short reasoning 4. The context is 131,072 tokens. The card's 512K extension isn't documented 5. Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented 6. IBM recommends Granite Guardian beside it to flag risky inputs and outputs ### Ornith-1.5-397B 1. Start it with the card's vLLM command at `--tensor-parallel-size 8`, or `ollama run ornith-1.5:397b` on a machine with about 300 GB of memory 2. In vLLM pass `--enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_xml --reasoning-parser qwen3`, and in SGLang `--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder --reasoning-parser qwen3`, so tool calls and reasoning come back parsed 3. Thinking is on by default. Send `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false for short tasks, a switch the card doesn't mention 4. Pin which template your runtime loads, since chat_template.jinja keeps earlier reasoning and the tokenizer_config.json template drops it 5. When downloading the NVFP4 build, fetch only the files its model.safetensors.index.json names (the 25-shard set, 241.7 GB), not the eight extra shards 6. Pin a revision when you download, since Ornith has replaced files in place 7. Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented ## Questions ### Which is better for AI agents, Granite 4.2 8B or Ornith-1.5-397B? Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against Ornith-1.5-397B's 59 (C), and leads in 3 of 4 scored categories. ## For agents - This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-ornith-1-5-397b.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-ornith-1-5-397b.min.md - Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "granite-4-2-8b", "b": "ornith-1-5-397b"}`. 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