# Granite 4.2 8B vs LongCat-2.5

> Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) to LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D) for open-weight models you run yourself. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side.

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Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 3 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.

- Granite 4.2 8B: grade C, 61/100, rank #66 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/granite-4-2-8b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/granite-4-2-8b.json
- LongCat-2.5: grade D, 50.5/100, rank #145 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/longcat-2-5.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/longcat-2-5.json
- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md
- All 6359 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md

## Which one, for what

### Granite 4.2 8B (C)

Good for: Agents that want a documented, signed, Apache 2.0 reasoning model with tool calling on a 16 GB machine

Ahead on:
- Reach, 95 against 35
- Agent interface, 85 against 75
- Documentation and upkeep, 92 against 46

Watch for: No safety results published for it

### LongCat-2.5 (D)

Good for: Operators with NPU clusters, and anyone tracking what the open flagships can do

Ahead on:
- Risk, 60 against 55

Watch for: 3,562 GB in BF16 and 1,336 GB at 4 bits


## Why the edge

### Reach: Granite 4.2 8B +60

- Granite 4.2 8B (95): Memory 30, IBM's own 4-bit MLX build granite-4.2-8b-q4-mlx is 4.95 GB, and 4.95 GB × 1.2 = 5.9 GB, within 8 GB. Its Q4_0 GGUF is 5.06 GB and Ollama's library build granite4.2:8b (5.3 GB) fits 8 GB too. Runtimes 25, Released versions run the granite architecture in llama.cpp (granite, b12242), vLLM (GraniteForCausalLM in the v0.33.0 registry), SGLang (granite.py at v0.5.23), Transformers (v5.22.2) and Ollama (its own granite4.2 library entry, 8b tag). Builds 15, IBM publishes FP8, MXFP4 and NVFP4 safetensors builds, a GGUF repository with Q4_0 to Q8_0 and BF16 files, and 4-bit, 8-bit and BF16 MLX builds, so quantised builds at two precisions or more. Terms 15, Apache 2.0, an OSI-approved licence, with no use policy or other terms added on the card. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for the BF16, FP8, MXFP4, NVFP4, GGUF and MLX repositories, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps one inference provider (DeepInfra, live), short of the two the line needs. 30 + 25 + 15 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 95.
- LongCat-2.5 (35): Memory 0, the smallest build is Meituan's W4A4 repository, 1,336 GB, and 1,336 GB × 1.2 = 1,603 GB, far above 256 GB. The BF16 files are 3,562 GB. Runtimes 0, none of the six runs it in a released version: vLLM 0.33.0, SGLang 0.5.23, Transformers 5.22.2 and llama.cpp b12242 have no LongcatCausalLM or pro_v code, and the model code config.json names isn't in the repository. Builds 10, one quantised build from Meituan, the W4A4 repository (4-bit experts, 1,336 GB). Terms 15, MIT in the metadata, the LICENSE file and the card, with nothing added. Download 10, the Hub API reports gated false for both repositories on 10 November 2026, so the files download with no account and nothing to accept. Hosted 0, Hugging Face maps no inference provider to it. 0 + 0 + 10 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 35.

### Documentation and upkeep: Granite 4.2 8B +46

- Granite 4.2 8B (92): Model card 17, Intended use (best for), limitations (ethical considerations and limitations), architecture, parameters (8B), context length (128K native) and 12 tested languages are on the card. Training data 20, IBM's disclosure file for the 8B lists the datasets used in pre-training and post-training as machine-readable metadata, and the card describes the three training stages. Last change 20, the last commit, on 20 October 2026, replaced model.safetensors.index.json (titled "granite-4.2 index file fix"), 21 days before this check. Responsiveness 20, Of the 5 discussions that aren't pull requests (13 September to 5 November 2026), 4 have a reply from an ibm-granite member. Version policy 5, Granite 4.1 8B stays in its own repository and 4.2 came out in new ones. File health 10, Config, template and card agree on the architecture, the 131,072-token context and the thinking switch. 17 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 5 + 10 = 92.
- LongCat-2.5 (46): Model card 11, Intended use, limitations (the usage considerations), the architecture and the parameter counts are on the card. Training data 5, A general description of the training stages and where the reinforcement learning tasks came from, with no sources, sizes or cut-off. Last change 20, the last commit, on 10 November 2026, updated the card, on the day of this check. Responsiveness 0, Neither of the 2 discussions that aren't pull requests (9 and 10 November 2026) has a reply from a meituan-longcat member, counted on 10 November by author flags and dates with a script, text not read. Version policy 5, LongCat-2.0 stays in its own repositories and 2.5 came out in new ones, with no dated note on the older ones that we read. File health 5, the template is in both places and agrees, but config.json's auto_map names configuration_longcat_oe and modeling_longcat_oe, which aren't in the repository, and the tokenizer config's 131,072-token length is a quarter of the config's 524,288 positions. 11 + 5 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 5 = 46.

### Agent interface: Granite 4.2 8B +10

- Granite 4.2 8B (85): Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository, with roles, tools, tool responses, the thinking switch and low effort. Tool-calling format 25, the card has tool-calling sections for vLLM and SGLang, declares tools with OpenAI's function schema and names the parser to use, qwen3_coder, which both runtimes ship in the released versions read. Trained tool calling 20, the template loops over every entry in an assistant turn's tool_calls, so it renders several calls in one turn, and the card names tool calling and agentic workflows as what it's best for. Structured output 0, the card doesn't document JSON or JSON Schema output or how to ask for it. Reasoning control 10, the card documents thinking on by default, non-thinking and low-effort modes per request through the template (enable_thinking and low_effort), with the reasoning returned apart from the answer. Context 10, 131,072 tokens natively per the card and config.json. 20 + 25 + 20 + 0 + 10 + 10 = 85.
- LongCat-2.5 (75): Chat template 20, chat_template.jinja in the repository (11,823 characters), with a copy in tokenizer_config.json. Tool-calling format 25, the card documents how tools are declared (the OpenAI function format) and how calls come back (tool_calls with an id, a name and JSON arguments, answered by a tool message), in a worked example against an OpenAI-compatible server. Trained tool calling 10, the card describes reinforcement learning on long agentic tasks and shows one tool call in a turn. Structured output 0, Nothing on the card about JSON or schema-constrained output. Reasoning control 10, enable_thinking on or off per request through chat_template_kwargs, with the reasoning returned as reasoning_content, both shown on the card. Context 10, the card states no context length, but config.json gives 524,288 positions and the card's own evaluations ran at 512K and 1M sequence lengths after what it calls long-context training, so 128K or more is taken as trained. 20 + 25 + 10 + 0 + 10 + 10 = 75.

### Risk: LongCat-2.5 +5

- Granite 4.2 8B (55): File safety 15, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files (25). Provenance 15, the files sit in the ibm-granite organisation, which IBM's Granite docs and the GitHub README link to (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions. Licence risk 15, Apache 2.0 has no use policy, field-of-use limit, threshold or change clause, and the card's licence link resolves. Security programme 5, www.ibm.com/.well-known/security.txt names IBM PSIRT, read for the 3B listing on 4 November 2026 (5). 15 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 5 = 55.
- LongCat-2.5 (60): File safety 25, safetensors only, no .bin, .pt or .pth files and no Python in the repository. Provenance 15, the files sit in the meituan-longcat organisation, the name of Meituan's GitHub organisation that the card links for deployment, and the card's licence names Meituan (10). Safety evaluation 0, no safety results on the card. Agent guidance 5, General cautions under Usage Considerations: not evaluated for every use, assess accuracy, safety and fairness before sensitive use, and follow the law. Licence risk 15, MIT with no use policy, no threshold and no right to change the terms. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw on the card beyond a general contact, and Meituan's own security pages weren't looked up, so this scores as absent and is an open question. 25 + 15 + 0 + 5 + 15 + 0 = 60.

## Score by category

| Category | Weight | Granite 4.2 8B | LongCat-2.5 | Edge |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 95 | 35 | Granite 4.2 8B +60 |
| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 55 | 60 | LongCat-2.5 +5 |
| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 85 | 75 | Granite 4.2 8B +10 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 92 | 46 | Granite 4.2 8B +46 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| **Total** | | **61 · C** | **50.5 · D** | |

## Facts side by side

| Fact | Granite 4.2 8B | LongCat-2.5 |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | IBM | Meituan (LongCat) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports |  |  |
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 | MIT |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-10-20 | 2026-11-10 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | not read yet |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |

## Verdicts

**Granite 4.2 8B.** IBM's mid-size reasoning cousin, with the same strengths as the 3B. It runs in every runtime we count from IBM's own builds on a 16 GB machine, is signed, plain Apache 2.0, and comes with a disclosure of its training data. No safety results are published and structured output isn't documented.

**LongCat-2.5.** Meituan's flagship is MIT-licensed and documented for tool calling and switchable reasoning, with strong numbers of its own on agentic coding. Almost nobody can run it: 3,562 GB of weights, a 1,336 GB 4-bit build for NPU accelerators, and no released runtime with its architecture. A model to watch until a runtime or a provider picks it up.

## Before you call either

### Granite 4.2 8B

1. Start it with `ollama run granite4.2:8b`, or `llama-server -hf ibm-granite/granite-4.2-8b-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja`
2. With vLLM 0.32.0 or later leave out `--reasoning-parser-plugin`, since the parser is built in, and use `--tool-call-parser qwen3_coder`
3. Thinking is on by default. Pass `enable_thinking` false to turn it off or `low_effort` true for short reasoning
4. The context is 131,072 tokens. The card's 512K extension isn't documented
5. Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented
6. IBM recommends Granite Guardian beside it to flag risky inputs and outputs

### LongCat-2.5

1. You can't run this on a workstation or a single GPU server. Plan for a provider, and none serves it yet
2. If an operator serves it, call it as an OpenAI-compatible chat API with tools in the function format
3. Pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` true or false
4. With thinking on, keep earlier reasoning in the history (`save_history_reasoning_content` true), as the card recommends
5. The card's results use temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95
6. Its benchmark table is Meituan's own. The unmarked scores are in-house

## Questions

### Which is better for AI agents, Granite 4.2 8B or LongCat-2.5?

Granite 4.2 8B scores 61 (C) on agent readiness against LongCat-2.5's 50.5 (D), and leads in 3 of 4 scored categories. LongCat-2.5 leads on risk.


## For agents

- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-longcat-2-5.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/granite-4-2-8b-vs-longcat-2-5.min.md
- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "granite-4-2-8b", "b": "longcat-2-5"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare granite-4-2-8b longcat-2-5`
- Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/granite-4-2-8b.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/longcat-2-5.json

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