# Arete-27B vs Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B

> Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B scores 64.7 (B) to Arete-27B's 55.1 (C) for open-weight models you run yourself. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side.

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Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B scores 64.7 (B) on agent readiness against Arete-27B's 55.1 (C), and leads in every scored category. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.

- Arete-27B: grade C, 55.1/100, rank #123 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/arete-27b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/arete-27b.json
- Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B: grade B, 64.7/100, rank #20 of 160 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b.json
- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md
- All 6359 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md

## Which one, for what

### Arete-27B (C)

Good for: Agents that want Qwen3.8-27B's coding and tool use without its handling of politically sensitive topics, on a 24 GB card or a 128 GB machine

Watch for: No quantised build from Nous Research, so the GGUF route depends on a third party

### Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B (B)

Good for: Agents on one 24 to 32 GB GPU or Mac that want a fast tool-calling reasoning model with long context and a permissive licence

Ahead on:
- Reach, 85 against 50
- Risk, 75 against 55
- Agent interface, 90 against 60
- Documentation and upkeep, 75 against 63

Watch for: No safety evaluation results published


## Why the edge

### Reach: Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +35

- Arete-27B (50): Memory 10, the only build from Nous Research is the 54.7 GB BF16 release, which needs about 66 GB and fits the reference machine. Runtimes 15, vLLM, SGLang and Transformers run the base's architecture from those files, and llama.cpp isn't credited because Nous Research publishes no GGUF. Builds 0, no quantised build of its own. Terms 15, Apache 2.0. Download 10, not gated. Hosted 0, no provider. 10 + 15 + 0 + 15 + 10 + 0 = 50.
- Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B (85): Memory earns 25, since ggml-org's 18.9 GB Q4_0 GGUF and Ollama's 19 GB nvfp4 build both need under 24 GB with the fifth added. Runtimes earn the full 25 from released vLLM, SGLang, llama.cpp, Transformers, Ollama and LM Studio. Builds earn 10, as NVIDIA's only quantised build is NVFP4. Terms earn 10, because OpenMDW-1.1 is permissive with no threshold or use policy but isn't an OSI licence. Download earns 10, with no gate or account. Hosted earns 5, since NVIDIA's own API serves it and Fireworks hosts it.

### Agent interface: Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +30

- Arete-27B (60): Chat template 20, a Jinja file in the repository. Tool-calling format 10, only the template says it. Trained tool calling 20, several calls a turn and agentic work as an intended use. Structured output 0 and reasoning control 0, neither is documented on the card. Context 10, 262,144 tokens native. 20 + 10 + 20 + 0 + 0 + 10 = 60.
- Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B (90): The chat template earns 20, a Jinja file in the repository. The tool-calling format earns 25, since the card names the qwen3_coder parser and shows a tool call declared and read back. Trained tool calling earns 20, with tool-use training and several calls per turn in the template. Structured output earns 5, claimed from training with no instructions. Reasoning control earns 10, thinking off per request with runtime parsers that return the reasoning apart. Context earns 10 for up to 1M tokens.

### Risk: Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +20

- Arete-27B (55): File safety 25, safetensors only and no remote code. Provenance 15, Nous Research's own organisation, linked from its blog, with a hash on every file. Safety evaluation 0 and agent guidance 0, nothing published on either. Licence risk 15, plain Apache 2.0. Security programme 0, no way to report a flaw found. 25 + 15 + 0 + 0 + 15 + 0 = 55.
- Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B (75): File safety earns 25, safetensors only with no Python files, and nothing from the repository runs to load it or parse its output. Provenance earns 15, files in NVIDIA's linked organisation with a hash for every file. Safety evaluation earns 0, since NVIDIA says it evaluated content safety but publishes no results. Agent guidance earns 10, a subcard that names prompt injection and the safeguards to add, without an instruction hierarchy. Licence risk keeps all 15 under OpenMDW-1.1. The security programme earns 10 for the reporting route on the card and NVIDIA's public bulletins.

### Documentation and upkeep: Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +12

- Arete-27B (63): Model card 8, no limitations, context length, languages or cut-off. Training data 20, the training pairs and the evaluation set are published with their counts. Last change 20, a commit on 6 November 2026. Responsiveness 0, none of 13 discussions has a reply from Nous Research. Version policy 5, a first release. File health 10, the files agree. 8 + 20 + 20 + 0 + 5 + 10 = 63.
- Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B (75): The model card earns 20, all seven items with limitations in the linked subcard. Training data earns 20, datasets listed with sources and token counts, cut-offs and filtering, and the corpora published. Last change earns 20, counting NVIDIA's own inference code as for the other Nemotron listings. The repositories last changed on 10 September, 53 days ago, and TensorRT-LLM, which the card's serving section runs, changed its Nemotron-H model code on 14 October, 19 days ago. Responsiveness earns 5, one NVIDIA reply across 14 questions. Version policy earns 5 as a first release. File health earns 5, since reports about the card's recipes wait without a reply and the llama.cpp recipe names a quantisation the linked repository doesn't hold.

## Score by category

| Category | Weight | Arete-27B | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B | Edge |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 50 | 85 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +35 |
| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 55 | 75 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +20 |
| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 60 | 90 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +30 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 63 | 75 | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B +12 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| **Total** | | **55.1 · C** | **64.7 · B** | |

## Facts side by side

| Fact | Arete-27B | Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Nous Research | NVIDIA |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports |  |  |
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 | OpenMDW-1.1 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-11-06 | 2026-08-11 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Agent reviews | none | 3/5 (4) |

## How the scores have moved

### Arete-27B

No score change since it was listed.

### Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B

- +0.5 on 2 November 2026: correction

## Verdicts

**Arete-27B.** Qwen3.8-27B with its answers on politically sensitive topics retrained, four days old when read. The training data is published, which is rare. Nous Research ships BF16 only, so a small machine runs it from bartowski's GGUF, and the card documents none of the tool or thinking controls it inherits.

**Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B.** A small agent cousin, 3B active parameters, with trained parallel tool calls, a thinking switch and up to 1M tokens of context, under a permissive licence. It runs in about 23 GB from the GGUF or Ollama builds, and NVIDIA's NVFP4 build needs NVIDIA GPUs. The main risks are no published safety results and one answered question across two repositories.

## Before you call either

### Arete-27B

1. Start it with `llama-server -hf bartowski/NousResearch_Arete-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja`, a third party's conversion, or serve the BF16 files with vLLM
2. Use the base's parsers in vLLM, `--reasoning-parser qwen3 --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder`, and check tool calls first, since the template differs slightly from Qwen3.8-27B's
3. Thinking switches with `enable_thinking` in the template. The card's own evaluation ran with it off
4. Expect answers on politically sensitive topics to differ from Qwen3.8-27B's. That is what the fine-tune is for
5. Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented

### Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B

1. Quickest start is `ollama run nemotron-3.5-lightning`, about 19 to 25 GB of files depending on the platform
2. On the reference machine use `llama-server -hf ggml-org/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3.5-Lightning-30B-A3B-GGUF:Q4_0 --jinja`, since the card's Q4_K_M tag doesn't exist there and NVFP4 needs NVIDIA GPUs
3. With vLLM serve it with `--reasoning-parser nemotron_v3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder` (SGLang uses `--reasoning-parser nemotron_3`)
4. Use `temperature=1.0` and `top_p=0.95`, as the card says
5. Thinking is on by default. Pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false for short tasks
6. For coding agents pass `force_nonempty_content: true` in `chat_template_kwargs`, which vLLM's nemotron_v3 parser reads so a cut-off reasoning trace still returns content
7. Go past 262,144 tokens only with the card's flags (`VLLM_ALLOW_LONG_MAX_MODEL_LEN=1`, `--max-model-len 1048576`) and enough memory

## Questions

### Which is better for AI agents, Arete-27B or Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B?

Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B A3B scores 64.7 (B) on agent readiness against Arete-27B's 55.1 (C), and leads in every scored category.


## For agents

- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/arete-27b-vs-nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/arete-27b-vs-nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b.min.md
- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "arete-27b", "b": "nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare arete-27b nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b`
- Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/arete-27b.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/nemotron-3-5-lightning-30b-a3b.json

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