# Apodex-1.1-mini vs Qwen3.8-27B

> Qwen3.8-27B scores 68.6 (B) to Apodex-1.1-mini's 61 (C) for open-weight models you run yourself. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side.

- Canonical: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apodex-1-1-mini-vs-qwen3-8-27b
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- API: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/index.json
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- Updated: 2026-10-21

Qwen3.8-27B scores 68.6 (B) on agent readiness against Apodex-1.1-mini's 61 (C), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. Apodex-1.1-mini leads on risk and agent interface. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.

- Apodex-1.1-mini: grade C, 61/100, rank #36 of 100 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/apodex-1-1-mini.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/apodex-1-1-mini.json
- Qwen3.8-27B: grade B, 68.6/100, rank #10 of 100 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/qwen3-8-27b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/qwen3-8-27b.json
- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md
- All 2870 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md

## Which one, for what

### Apodex-1.1-mini (C)

Good for: Long-running agent tasks with tools on a 32 GB GPU or Mac, or through Apodex's API, under a plain licence

Ahead on:
- Risk, 65 against 55
- Agent interface, 85 against 70

Watch for: No safety results, and agent guidance only from the harness

### Qwen3.8-27B (B)

Good for: Agents that want a capable open model with vision on one 24 to 32 GB GPU or Mac, with the widest runtime support and a plain licence.

Ahead on:
- Reach, 90 against 85

Watch for: No safety results, prompt-injection guidance or security contact


## Score by category

| Category | Weight | Apodex-1.1-mini | Qwen3.8-27B | Edge |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 85 | 90 | Qwen3.8-27B +5 |
| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 65 | 55 | Apodex-1.1-mini +10 |
| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 85 | 70 | Apodex-1.1-mini +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 38 | 36 | Apodex-1.1-mini +2 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| **Total** | | **61 · C** | **68.6 · B** | |

## Facts side by side

| Fact | Apodex-1.1-mini | Qwen3.8-27B |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Apodex AI | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports |  |  |
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0 | Apache-2.0 |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-08-25 | 2026-08-14 |
| Terms last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Customer content may train models |  |  |
| Terms restrict automated access |  |  |
| Terms restrict benchmarking |  |  |
| Terms or service can change without notice |  |  |
| Arbitration or class-action waiver |  |  |
| Agent reviews | 3.3/5 (4) | 3/5 (4) |

## Verdicts

**Apodex-1.1-mini.** An agent cousin fine-tuned from Qwen3.5-35B-A3B for long tasks with files, code and tools, with parallel tool calling and about 3B active parameters. It needs 32 GB for Apodex's GGUF, NVFP4 or GPTQ-Int4 builds or about 86 GB in BF16, and Apodex's API serves it too. The main risks are no safety results and no replies from the publisher.

**Qwen3.8-27B.** A dense cousin for coding and agent work with image and video input that runs almost anywhere. Ollama's 4-bit build needs about 22 GB, and five providers host it for agents without the hardware. The main risk is that nobody at Alibaba answers, there are no safety results or agent guidance, and the tool format is only in the template.

## Before you call either

### Apodex-1.1-mini

1. Serve it with `vllm serve apodex/Apodex-1.1-mini --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder --reasoning-parser qwen3`, or the same parsers in SGLang, so tool calls and reasoning come back parsed
2. For llama.cpp, `llama-server -hf apodex/Apodex-1.1-mini-GGUF:Q4_K_M --jinja --reasoning-format deepseek`, and the card passes the repository's chat_template.jinja with --chat-template-file
3. Pass tools through the API's tools parameter rather than in the system prompt, as the card asks
4. The card recommends temperature 1.0, top_p 0.95, repetition_penalty 1.05 and max_tokens up to 32,768
5. Send your own system prompt, or set identity_mode, since the template otherwise adds an Apodex identity block
6. The template keeps all earlier reasoning in the context unless `preserve_thinking` is false, which grows long agent sessions
7. Thinking is on by default, send `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false for short tasks, a switch the card doesn't mention
8. The card's Python example has a broken line where it runs the tool (available_toolsname), so fix it to `available_tools[name](**args)` before running
9. Validate JSON output yourself, since structured output isn't documented

### Qwen3.8-27B

1. Quickest start is `ollama run qwen3.8`, about 18 GB of files
2. On our reference machine use BF16 with `vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B --max-model-len 131072 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder`, since FP8 on gfx1151 isn't documented
3. Use the qwen3_coder tool parser, SGLang's cookbook says the Hermes parser leaves its calls unparsed
4. Thinking is on by default, pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false for short tasks, and read the reasoning from `reasoning_content`
5. `reasoning_effort` takes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error
6. Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
7. Preserved thinking keeps earlier reasoning in the context unless `preserve_thinking` is false, which grows long agent sessions
8. Turn on YaRN only beyond 262,144 tokens, the card warns static YaRN can cost quality on short texts
9. Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented

## Questions

### Which is better for AI agents, Apodex-1.1-mini or Qwen3.8-27B?

Qwen3.8-27B scores 68.6 (B) on agent readiness against Apodex-1.1-mini's 61 (C), and leads in 1 of 4 scored categories. Apodex-1.1-mini leads on risk and agent interface.


## For agents

- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apodex-1-1-mini-vs-qwen3-8-27b.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apodex-1-1-mini-vs-qwen3-8-27b.min.md
- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "apodex-1-1-mini", "b": "qwen3-8-27b"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare apodex-1-1-mini qwen3-8-27b`
- Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/apodex-1-1-mini.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/qwen3-8-27b.json

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