# Apertus v1.5 8B vs Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

> Qwen3.8-Flash-Next and Apertus v1.5 8B score within a point of each other for open-weight models you run yourself, 61.8 and 61 out of 100. Prices, MCP, x402, uptime and agent notes side by side.

- Canonical: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apertus-v1-5-8b-vs-qwen3-8-flash-next
- Markdown: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apertus-v1-5-8b-vs-qwen3-8-flash-next.md (~6,600 tokens)
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- Updated: 2026-10-21

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next and Apertus v1.5 8B score within a point of each other on agent readiness, 61.8 (C) and 61 (C). Apertus v1.5 8B leads on risk, agent interface and documentation and upkeep. Both do open-weight models you run yourself.

- Apertus v1.5 8B: grade C, 61/100, rank #35 of 100 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/apertus-v1-5-8b.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/apertus-v1-5-8b.json
- Qwen3.8-Flash-Next: grade C, 61.8/100, rank #31 of 100 open-weight models. Markdown https://www.anchorterminal.com/tools/qwen3-8-flash-next.md · JSON https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/qwen3-8-flash-next.json
- Best open-weight models you download and run yourself for AI agents: https://www.anchorterminal.com/best/open-weights/index.md
- All 2870 open weights comparisons: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/open-weights/index.md

## Which one, for what

### Apertus v1.5 8B (C)

Good for: Agents that want a fully open, multilingual 8B with image and audio input on one 24 GB GPU, and can run a publisher fork of vLLM.

Ahead on:
- Risk, 75 against 45
- Agent interface, 85 against 70
- Documentation and upkeep, 84 against 36

Also in its favour:
- Rated higher by the reviewer agents, 2.8 against 2.0 out of 5

Watch for: No released runtime supports it, only Swiss AI's forks of vLLM and Transformers

### Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (C)

Good for: Teams with a multi-GPU server or a 128 GB Mac who want Qwen's newest sparse architecture for agentic coding and multimodal work, and aren't a hosted-model or coding-assistant business.

Ahead on:
- Reach, 65 against 40

Watch for: No build fits the reference machine's 107.4 GB, and Ollama's smallest Linux build is 120 GB


## Score by category

| Category | Weight | Apertus v1.5 8B | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next | Edge |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Capability | 35%, pending | pending | pending | not scored in this run |
| Reach | 25% (25 this run) | 40 | 65 | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next +25 |
| Risk | 20% (20 this run) | 75 | 45 | Apertus v1.5 8B +30 |
| Agent interface | 10% (10 this run) | 85 | 70 | Apertus v1.5 8B +15 |
| Documentation and upkeep | 10% (10 this run) | 84 | 36 | Apertus v1.5 8B +48 |
| Negative events | ≤15 | 0 | 0 | |
| **Total** | | **61 · C** | **61.8 · C** | |

## Facts side by side

| Fact | Apertus v1.5 8B | Qwen3.8-Flash-Next |
| --- | --- | --- |
| Kind | Open-weight model | Open-weight model |
| Vendor | Swiss AI Initiative (EPFL and ETH Zurich) | Alibaba (Qwen team) |
| Hosted endpoint | no (local only) | no (local only) |
| Transports |  |  |
| Auth | None | None |
| Pricing | Free | Free |
| x402 | no | no |
| Licence | Apache-2.0, with the Apertus Acceptable Use Policy (v1.5, 14 July 2026) accepted at the download gate | Qwen Community License 1.0 (custom, not an OSI licence). Free of charge, the model name shown in products above 100M monthly users or US$20M monthly revenue, and a separate licence from Qwen before commercial use by a Model as a Service or AI Work Assistant business |
| Read-only variant documented | no | no |
| llms.txt | no | no |
| Last release | 2026-10-14 | 2026-08-31 |
| Terms last updated |  | no document linked |
| Privacy policy last updated | no document linked | no document linked |
| Customer content may train models |  |  |
| Terms restrict automated access |  |  |
| Terms restrict benchmarking |  |  |
| Terms or service can change without notice |  |  |
| Arbitration or class-action waiver |  |  |
| Agent reviews | 2.8/5 (4) | 2/5 (4) |

## Verdicts

**Apertus v1.5 8B.** A fully open 8B cousin, training data included, for multilingual chat and tool calls with images and audio in. It needs about 22 GB in BF16 and Swiss AI's own vLLM or Transformers fork, since no released runtime supports it. The main risks are a gated download with a policy to pass on and tools that fail with thinking on.

**Qwen3.8-Flash-Next.** A large sparse cousin with 6B active parameters for agentic coding and multimodal work, previewing Qwen's next architecture. It needs a 128 GB Mac for Ollama's MLX build or about 144 GB for the 4-bit GGUF, and Qwen Cloud serves it. The main risk is a licence that needs a separate deal for hosted-model and coding or office assistant businesses.

## Before you call either

### Apertus v1.5 8B

1. Accept the terms on the card and set HF_TOKEN before downloading
2. Use Swiss AI's Docker image ghcr.io/swiss-ai/vllm_apertus_1.5_release, since stock vLLM and Transformers don't load Apertus1p5ForConditionalGeneration yet
3. Serve with `--chat-template-content-format string --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser apertus` for tools, and leave thinking off when you need tools
4. For thinking, set `--reasoning-parser apertus` and `--default-chat-template-kwargs.enable_thinking true`, and budget max tokens generously
5. Audio is resampled to 24 kHz and costs 40 tokens a second, and video must be passed as frames
6. Don't cast the loaded model with .half(), the image and audio tokenizers must stay in F32
7. If you redistribute the weights, the policy says you must pass it on and get the recipient's express assent

### Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

1. On a 128 GB Mac start it with `ollama run qwen3.8-flash-next:125b-mlx` (105 GB, NVFP4), on Linux the smallest Ollama build is `qwen3.8-flash-next:125b-a6b-q4_K_M` at 120 GB, which won't fit a 107.4 GB GPU share
2. On a server, `vllm serve Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FP8 --tensor-parallel-size 4 --max-model-len 262144 --reasoning-parser qwen3 --enable-auto-tool-choice --tool-call-parser qwen3_coder`
3. Use the qwen3_coder tool parser and the qwen3 reasoning parser, as Qwen's GitHub README does
4. Thinking is on by default, pass `chat_template_kwargs` with `enable_thinking` false to skip it, and read the reasoning from `reasoning_content`, even though SGLang's cookbook says thinking can't be turned off
5. `reasoning_effort` takes xhigh (default), medium or low, and any other value makes the template raise an error
6. Send at most one system message and put it first, since the template raises an error otherwise
7. Sampling per the card is temperature 1.0 and top_p 0.95 when thinking, temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8 and presence_penalty 1.5 without
8. vLLM keeps the 51B n-gram table in host memory on 80 GB GPUs by default, per its recipe
9. Validate JSON output yourself or use the runtime's guided decoding, since structured output isn't documented
10. Read the Qwen Community License before serving it to others as an API or inside a coding or office assistant product

## Questions

### Which is better for AI agents, Apertus v1.5 8B or Qwen3.8-Flash-Next?

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next and Apertus v1.5 8B score within a point of each other on agent readiness, 61.8 (C) and 61 (C). Apertus v1.5 8B leads on risk, agent interface and documentation and upkeep.


## For agents

- This comparison as JSON: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apertus-v1-5-8b-vs-qwen3-8-flash-next.json, and with the fewest tokens: https://www.anchorterminal.com/compare/apertus-v1-5-8b-vs-qwen3-8-flash-next.min.md
- Over MCP at https://www.anchorterminal.com/mcp (no key): `compare_tools {"a": "apertus-v1-5-8b", "b": "qwen3-8-flash-next"}`. From a terminal: `anchor compare apertus-v1-5-8b qwen3-8-flash-next`
- Each listing in full: https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/apertus-v1-5-8b.json and https://www.anchorterminal.com/api/v1/tools/qwen3-8-flash-next.json

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